Stephon Castle - 2024 NBA Draft Prospect

[baseline bum]

Interesting scenario. I wonder in this case if you can't get CHA and MEM duking it out to move up to 4 for Clingan. If you can drop only to 6, it might be pretty nice as you'd pick up (some) asset and you'd still have whatever's left between Risacher and Buzelis at 6.

Could be interesting since if Castle is there at 4 he'll probably be there at 6 too if Charlotte does a pick swap to get Clingan 4, as the fit seems bad on Detroit. But yeah all Charlotte could offer me to do that deal would be dropping protections to say only top 4 protected on the 2025 pick. Which I don't think they'd do to get Clingan over Castle.

[scott]

Could be interesting since if Castle is there at 4 he'll probably be there at 6 too if Charlotte does a pick swap to get Clingan 4, as the fit seems bad on Detroit. But yeah all Charlotte could offer me to do that deal would be dropping protections to say only top 4 protected on the 2025 pick. Which I don't think they'd do to get Clingan over Castle.

If you felt VERY confident that no one was coming up to get Castle at 5 (which given that DET has talked about potentially moving out, I would not feel confident in at all) - I would probably accept a reduction to Top 6 or maaaaaybe 8 to move down two spots. CHA would have to go hard tank to fully protect that (which is not out of the question).

But in this scenario I was responding to… Castle got taken at 2, so it’s kind of moot. If Cligan and Castle are both there at 4 it means the top 3 was Risacher-Sarr-Reed, in which case I think DET will go Buzelis and you could have a little more confidence in dropping down to 6.

[ace3g]

[FutureMan]

For those who know college basketball well.. who are the last few guards who shot under 27.5% from three that went on to be successful in the NBA?

[Borosai]

Castle is the main pick for me. I just feel he's going to take the Kawhi development route, minus the chronic issues he's had with his leg, and wiping his own ass. He'll be a day one contributor, and improve his offensive game along the way.

Shooters like Dillingham or Knecht with the second pick.

[spurraider21]

assuming the top 3 picks end up being Risacher/Sarr/Sheppard... then Castle/Dillingham is close to my ideal outcome

i think the player value is good, and it means they arent just wishcasting that Castle is the full time point guard

[Duncan2177]

Castle at 4
Cody at 8

[spurraider21]

this is wild

from reddit

Givony talks about going to UConn games 2 hours early to watch Stephon Castle (projected #4 pick) warm up, trying to film 3 or 4 consecutive makes to post on instagram, and how it took 30-40 minutes to even get 2 consecutive makes from Castle — "this is alarming"

https://share.snipd.com/snip/f97820c...3-156043f107bc

[lefty20]

this is wild

from reddit

Givony talks about going to UConn games 2 hours early to watch Stephon Castle (projected #4 pick) warm up, trying to film 3 or 4 consecutive makes to post on instagram, and how it took 30-40 minutes to even get 2 consecutive makes from Castle — "this is alarming"


https://share.snipd.com/snip/f97820c...3-156043f107bc

ST - "I can fix him"

[Ice009]

Wow, that is not good. I can do that without even if I hadn't shot the ball in 5 years (give me 20-30 minutes to get warmed up, get a feel again). That is NOT good. I really like what this kid brings on the court, but shooting is a huge part of basketball these days. If that is true, not sure what to think of that.

[Mr. Body]

this is wild

from reddit

Givony talks about going to UConn games 2 hours early to watch Stephon Castle (projected #4 pick) warm up, trying to film 3 or 4 consecutive makes to post on instagram, and how it took 30-40 minutes to even get 2 consecutive makes from Castle — "this is alarming"

https://share.snipd.com/snip/f97820c...3-156043f107bc

Givony has been making love to Risacher for months. He just claimed that Risacher was awesome at passing and loved contact in his recent workouts -- some of his biggest problems during actual games. He's the one who originated the trade where the Spurs were going to use 2+4 to trade up to get Risacher. And now he's attacking Castle with this preposterous claim out of the blue, one of the other key Spurs targets.

Just absurd.

[CGD]

Imagine this scenario:

Sarr goes 1 to ATL
Castle goes 2 to WAS
Reed goes 3 to HOU

At that point it feels like Risacher is easily the choice right? Im guessing that Spurs really hope to have the choice of 2 of Castle/Risacher/Reed just have to see if it breaks that way. ATL taking Clingan is the most likely path to Castle being there for SA.

I don’t see a world where the Spurs pass on ZR in this scenario.

[DPG21920]

I don’t see a world where the Spurs pass on ZR in this scenario.

True, which is what I think too, but seemingly less likely Risacher makes it to 4

[Sugus]

this is wild

from reddit

Givony talks about going to UConn games 2 hours early to watch Stephon Castle (projected #4 pick) warm up, trying to film 3 or 4 consecutive makes to post on instagram, and how it took 30-40 minutes to even get 2 consecutive makes from Castle — "this is alarming"

https://share.snipd.com/snip/f97820c...3-156043f107bc

[BatManu20]

this is wild

from reddit

Givony talks about going to UConn games 2 hours early to watch Stephon Castle (projected #4 pick) warm up, trying to film 3 or 4 consecutive makes to post on instagram, and how it took 30-40 minutes to even get 2 consecutive makes from Castle — "this is alarming"


https://share.snipd.com/snip/f97820c...3-156043f107bc

He’s changed tbh.

[SpursBills]

I put virtually zero stock in pretty much anything that happens after the NCAA tournament. You could tell me he missed or made 30 3s in a row in practice and my opinion probably still won't be changed.

History says he's got about a 50% chance of becoming a league average or better shooter. If he becomes one, he's a great starter for a contender with all-star upside in the vein of Suggs/Holiday. If he's a below average shooter hitting ~30% or below on low volume, he's probably an 8th man bench piece like current Dyson Daniels. If his shooting doesn't translate and his defense is only above average then he's probably an end of bench rotation guy. No warm up shooting should realistically affect anyone's perception of his shooting prospects down the line.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post11069251

[Mr. Body]

The story is what the is going on with Givony. He used to be highly respected, but I don't trust any ESPN employee whatsoever. What he's been doing is down low gross.

[Em-City]

Castle is feeling like the safest pick at 4 right now

[DPG21920]

Castle is feeling like the safest pick at 4 right now

Safe as in most likely? Because there are no safe picks IMO in terms of being sure you have a high caliber nba player

[Ariel]

He’s changed tbh.

Even if you believe his shooting in practice is closer to his game average of 27% than his combine 72%, the only way he takes 30 or 40 minutes to make 2 in a row is if he takes his first shot, goes for a sandwich, and comes back to keep shooting half an hour later. I'd run the numbers but I'd be accused of derailing the thread

[spurraider21]

Safe as in most likely? Because there are no safe picks IMO in terms of being sure you have a high caliber nba player

id say its the safest bet as far as what the outcome will be

i do think castle is "safe" in that even if things dont work out great for him, he still has a floor as an nba player, even if its just a bench defender type

[DPG21920]

id say its the safest bet as far as what the outcome will be

i do think castle is "safe" in that even if things dont work out great for him, he still has a floor as an nba player, even if its just a bench defender type

I disagree there (personally). Not that I don’t like Castle but I think his floor is out of the league like/passed around barely hanging on Winslow type if things dont go well.

[scott]

I put virtually zero stock in pretty much anything that happens after the NCAA tournament. You could tell me he missed or made 30 3s in a row in practice and my opinion probably still won't be changed.

History says he's got about a 50% chance of becoming a league average or better shooter. If he becomes one, he's a great starter for a contender with all-star upside in the vein of Suggs/Holiday. If he's a below average shooter hitting ~30% or below on low volume, he's probably an 8th man bench piece like current Dyson Daniels. If his shooting doesn't translate and his defense is only above average then he's probably an end of bench rotation guy. No warm up shooting should realistically affect anyone's perception of his shooting prospects down the line.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post11069251

If you think his shooting is the key driver to the upper end of his outcomes, I'll take a coin-flip odds every time.

[PhantomDashCam]

The shooting concerns, illustrated. He’s my third favourite prospect though (behind Sheppard and Buzelis).

[spurraider21]

The shooting concerns, illustrated. He’s my third favourite prospect though (behind Sheppard and Buzelis).

now go find buzelis' chart