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    Man, what a bizarro world where it's LeBowen and myself preaching patience.
    I think people haven't realized the addition of Harper has probably slowed the Spirs down by at least a season.

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    Ive been team patience all along and still am. Doing deals like Barnes last season isnt a lack of patience. It’s clear as day that Spurs shouldn’t be using all their firsts to go all in. But they should be addressing team needs and looking at roster and improving and using smart trades (like Barnes) to keep upgrading and addressing needs and moving team forward.

    Cannot just draft 2 rookies + add a back up C and call it a day.
    This is fair, bit I also think they might wait till the deadline to make more noise

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    Not worried about their contract numbers but I am worried that these guys suck and other teams know they suck and it's actually harder to trade them than we realize cause nobody wants them.
    I think that’s fair with Keldon. He just doesn’t seem like a player who will ever impact winning. He can’t shoot, he isn’t a connector and he doesn’t play defense. It’s as empty calorie as it gets.

    Vassell can, IMO, but I completely understand why folks are down on him. He’s hurt too much. He settles for difficult jumpers. His defense hasn’t been as advertised. Maybe I’m burying my head in the sand, but I think he’s going to have a nice bounce back season.

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    I think people haven't realized the addition of Harper has probably slowed the Spirs down by at least a season.
    I mean, I'm just talking about patience until tomorrow when FA starts

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    Problem with Devin somehow turning into a net positive defender is that he’s too slow laterally to guard 2’s and too thin and weak to guard 3’s.

    The lesser of the two evils might be to move to a full time 3 and try get stronger. Especially since the Spurs now have a logjam at the guard with Fox, Castle, Harper.

    Until he is shipped out that is.

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    what the Spurs need to do is ask about John Collins and Santi Aldama and see who's cheaper. Utah most likely wants a couple of second rounders for John Collins. Memphis wants to sign and trade Aldama as far as I know, because they need some more cap space for Jaren Jackson Jr.'s extension. They also won't get a first for him and rather a couple second rounders. Just offer him the full MLE as a start and see if Memphis matches.

    Kick the tires on both and see which one you can get for less.

    I assume the Spurs do not want to trade a first round pick, but the reason they should still make a trade is that there are plenty of upgrades available for less than that and we got 4 second round pick in 2026, including Utah's.
    We got top 8 protection on the Demar S&T from Chicago... I'd be willing to do lotto protected ATL27 or SAS29 in a S&T for Santi, personally. Don't know it would require it, but I'd be willing to go that high. I'm also a Santi-stan, so my words should be taken with a grain of salt for sure

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    Houston Rockets forward Jabari Smith Jr. intends to sign a five-year, $122 million rookie contract extension, sources tell ESPN. Rockets officials and Smith's agent, Wallace Prather of LIFT Sports Management, negotiated the fully guaranteed deal through 2030-31 season.

    https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1...703626/photo/1
    Keith Smith's boldest prediction from his extension article immediately down in flames. Didn't even make it a day

    Still love Keith's work

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    We got top 8 protection on the Demar S&T from Chicago... I'd be willing to do lotto protected ATL27 or SAS29 in a S&T for Santi, personally. Don't know it would require it, but I'd be willing to go that high. I'm also a Santi-stan, so my words should be taken with a grain of salt for sure
    I think the Spurs do not want to trade a first. They probably just want to lose a round in the playoffs and then have all assets ready for a bigger move. Still second rounders should be able to net them some good players this offseason, unless they value 4 x cash considerations more

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    This is fair, bit I also think they might wait till the deadline to make more noise
    I hate that. I understand it may happen, but to me that’s lazy. Spurs knew for a fact shooting was an issue and if all they do is add Harper + CB + a back up big they have done zero to address a glaring issue.

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    Using FRPs would make no sense at this point.
    We still don't know Wemby's health situation after a career threatening medical issue.
    We just hired a coach with no experience.
    Fox has played just 5 games with Wemby.
    Noone else on the roster other than Barnes has proven anything.
    Going all in when we don't know anything about the team would be too risky.

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    Stein confirming the spurs/kornet interest. Stein says it’s seemingly unlikely kornet stays unless Celtics move Hauser or Simons

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    Stein confirming the spurs/kornet interest. Stein says it’s seemingly unlikely kornet stays unless Celtics move Hauser or Simons
    This is exactly the type of false hope that keeps this site alive every summer

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    Using FRPs would make no sense at this point.
    We still don't know Wemby's health situation after a career threatening medical issue.
    We just hired a coach with no experience.
    Fox has played just 5 games with Wemby.
    Noone else on the roster other than Barnes has proven anything.
    Going all in when we don't know anything about the team would be too risky.
    I just don’t think adding in a single lotto protected FRP + a couple of 2nd is “going all in”. It’s not like anyone here is advocating for us mortgaging away the entire future to go out and get someone.

    Most people here just want to get rid of Keldon and a few SRPs

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    2024 - Summer of Lauri
    2025 - Summer of Kornet

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    Using FRPs would make no sense at this point.
    We still don't know Wemby's health situation after a career threatening medical issue.
    We just hired a coach with no experience.
    Fox has played just 5 games with Wemby.
    Noone else on the roster other than Barnes has proven anything.
    Going all in when we don't know anything about the team would be too risky.
    Why do you keep brining up going all in?

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    Can’t remember where I saw it but it seemed most Celtics fans would rather keep Simons scoring and let Kornet go rather than trade Simons just to keep Kornet. If I’m a Celtics fan I tend to agree, Simons has his flaws but if surrounded by good defenders like Derick White, Jaylen Brown, he can be a net positive and get you 20 PPG on .580-.590 TS%, career 38% from 3 on 8.8 attempts we know Mazulla loves to jack 3’s.

    I don’t think the Celtics are going to be tanking in a wide open East they still have a compe ive team.

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    I don't see how the Celtics can flip Simons anywhere.

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    Stein also reporting Atlanta and Detroit are making the strongest pushes for NAW. Hopefully he chooses Detroit, he would really round out the Hawks rotation nicely which won’t be good for the draft picks.

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    Why do you keep brining up going all in?
    Because the players we'd like to get rid of don't have much value and any high end starter would cost us at least 2 FRPs?
    We have just 1 FRP per draft, it's not like we're still at 10+ tradeable picks.
    Not to mention the salary implications.

    I named reasonably prices PFs and Cs I'd try and get, anything more is a riskier move.

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    https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1...703626/photo/1
    Jabari Smith is a guy the Rockets valued at 3 1st round picks so they were always going to pay him. Ime Udoka loves him and views him as one of the defensive anchors

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    If the Celtics don't resign Kornet, who the is going to play C for them? Xavier Tillman and Al Horford? Maybe they and the Hornets are ahead of the curve on a new centerless basketball movement.

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    If not Kornet or a trade possibility, I like Day’Ron Sharpe as a target.

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    If not Kornet or a trade possibility, I like Day’Ron Sharpe as a target.
    I think Sharpe would be a great pickup, but I’m pretty sure he’s heading back to Brooklyn. They have plenty of cap space and seem interested in retaining him. I’d be a little surprised if he goes somewhere else.

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    Since everyone is gaga over Kornet... can someone sell me on him? What's the appeal here, I did not watch many Celtics games. His RB% and BLK% numbers are considerably worse than Bassey's, for example (but Bassey can't stay healthy and gets lost on both ends of the court at times). Does Kornet demonstrate a lot of on-the court smarts? Is a good screener? Not hating on him... looking for the real scouting report here.

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    Since everyone is gaga over Kornet... can someone sell me on him? What's the appeal here, I did not watch many Celtics games. His RB% and BLK% numbers are considerably worse than Bassey's, for example (but Bassey can't stay healthy and gets lost on both ends of the court at times). Does Kornet demonstrate a lot of on-the court smarts? Is a good screener? Not hating on him... looking for the real scouting report here.
    It's the Kornet Kontest, look it up.

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