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    For example, I know Sochan >>>> Bryn Forbes as basketball players, but my educated guess tells me Forbes would average more PPG in Summer League if both shared the same team.

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    We’re talking 3pts shooting, and yes SGA isn’t elite at this, just like Fox.

    And since you now understood we’re talking 3pts, you can get the rest of my message
    37.5% (SGA) vs 27.4% (Fox) is a MASSIVE difference. SGA isn't elite, but he is above average. Fox is legitimately a bad three point shooter. The comparison makes 0 sense

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    37.5% (SGA) vs 27.4% (Fox) is a MASSIVE difference. SGA isn't elite, but he is above average. Fox is legitimately a bad three point shooter. The comparison makes 0 sense
    Fox is a career 33% 3pt shooter and shot 37% in 23-24 season. This season isn't relevant because of his finger issue.
    He'll go back to that 32-35% range. Not great, but not terrible.

    Fox also has higher volume. I think that will come down with the Spurs because there are more mouths to feed, but it should only work in his favor because he won't take as many difficult shots.

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    Fox is still a three point threat, the way Trae Young (a career 34% 3P shooter) is a three point threat. Teams aren't going to leave them wide open at the arch and dare them to shoot. We don't everyone to be a sniper, just be good enough to not have teams blatantly abandoning coverage on them and daring them to shoot (like they currently do with Sochan). Even Castle is significantly more of a 3pt threat than Sochan, despite shooting at a lower %, because at least Castle will actually shoot them and not just his pants when he gets the ball.

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    Fox is a career 33% 3pt shooter and shot 37% in 23-24 season. This season isn't relevant because of his finger issue.
    He'll go back to that 32-35% range. Not great, but not terrible.

    Fox also has higher volume. I think that will come down with the Spurs because there are more mouths to feed, but it should only work in his favor because he won't take as many difficult shots.
    That is a fair point, he definitely shot worse last season because of the pinky issue. But Fox has never been a good three point shooter. Career 33% like you said, and that is inflated a little bit by a couple 37% outlier season, he has 3 seasons where he shot under 30% from three. Compared to SGA who is a 35.5% career shooter from deep who has never shot under 30% for a season and has 3 seasons shooting above 35%. I just think the SGA v Fox comparison is silly altogether. One is a top 5 player and current MVP/champ, the other is a top 30ish player. There is a massive gulf between them

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    I quoted just the right guy, try to follow the conversation and you'll understand.

    Mnky seems to believe that since a player is good in the NBA, he can drop 30 as he likes in Summer League, regardless of skillset. I'm just trying to make him understand that that's not how basketball works, tbh.
    My bad then.

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    I quoted just the right guy, try to follow the conversation and you'll understand.

    Mnky seems to believe that since a player is good in the NBA, he can drop 30 as he likes in Summer League, regardless of skillset. I'm just trying to make him understand that that's not how basketball works, tbh.
    Keita Bates-Diop , a career 6 ppg scorer dropped 30 against the a Lakers in an NBA game. That’s a lot higher threshold than SL, and he’s definitely a journeyman/scrub.

    You’re just wrong on this, 86.

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    This thread has gone off the rails. Fox 27% 3 PT percentage is atypical and what does this have to do with Bryant? Who was regarded as a 39% 3 PT shooter in college so he showed his potential. And imagine how simple his role and little attention he would command playing with our new Big 4.

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    Keita Bates-Diop , a career 6 ppg scorer dropped 30 against the a Lakers in an NBA game. That’s a lot higher threshold than SL, and he’s definitely a journeyman/scrub.

    You’re just wrong on this, 86.
    How does a one game sample size make me wrong?

    Sochan also scored 30 in the NBA once, that doesn't necessarily mean he would average 30 in Summer League, tbh. You are the one that is wrong on this, imho.

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    37.5% (SGA) vs 27.4% (Fox) is a MASSIVE difference. SGA isn't elite, but he is above average. Fox is legitimately a bad three point shooter. The comparison makes 0 sense
    That’s
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    That’s
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    No Sherlock. As I said in a follow up post Fox has shot under 30% three times in his career. So it isn't just one season.

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    No Sherlock. As I said in a follow up post Fox has shot under 30% three times in his career. So it isn't just one season.
    Buy you’re only comparing one season. Career, it’s about 35% to 33%.

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    Soooo…we’re back?

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    Soooo…we’re back?
    Back to the boredom of no-sports summer? Yeah.

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    Back to the boredom of no-sports summer? Yeah.
    We still have one more consolation game.

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    We still have one more consolation game.
    Oh cool, didn't realize.

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    Back to the boredom of no-sports summer? Yeah.
    nfl training camps starting and preseason soon enough

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    nfl training camps starting and preseason soon enough
    PL starts in August too

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    Is he back in the Hall of Fame now?

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    This guy is skilled and athletic, but he really makes the game hard for himself. He needs to just do the simple stuff rather than the dumb he often resorts to. That’s why I think it might be better to have him sit on the bench with San Antonio than play in the nonsense that is the G league

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    This guy is skilled and athletic, but he really makes the game hard for himself. He needs to just do the simple stuff rather than the dumb he often resorts to. That’s why I think it might be better to have him sit on the bench with San Antonio than play in the nonsense that is the G league
    What dumb do you think he does?

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    What dumb do you think he does?
    Terrible turnovers trying to make questionable passes (I’d be very surprised if he has more assists than turnovers this summer), attempting to put the ball on the floor when he doesn’t have that skill yet, passing up easy open shots and dribbling into tougher shots, etc.

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    Terrible turnovers trying to make questionable passes (I’d be very surprised if he has more assists than turnovers this summer), attempting to put the ball on the floor when he doesn’t have that skill yet, passing up easy open shots and dribbling into tougher shots, etc.
    Isn’t that kind of the point of Summer League though? Shooting every shot left-handed and whatnot?

    These aren’t exactly important games. Quite the opposite.

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