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    And I'm kind of disapointed Nadia wasn't a spy.
    I don't know, I still have a feeling she is a spy and that dude who found the chip is a conspirator.

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    I'm with J.T. on Audrey not being dead. It will turn out that the only reason the Chinese let Jack walk is because they knew they had the leverage to get him back later, namely Audrey. Or some other stupid reason. This show is trying my patience this year.

    On the plus side with the threat of the nuclear launch stopped for now they can stop having to use the term "Assad's country" over and over. I wish they'd just pick a country, issue a press release saying, "Even though we portray Syria as a terrorist supporting state this season it doesn't really mean anything because we're a freaking television show," and go about their business. And I'm kind of disapointed Nadia wasn't a spy. When that plot line started did anyone honestly think she wouldn't get cleared somehow? It wouldn't be very PC but it would have been a good twist.

    Personally I want to see the AG stop Daniels only to have it turn out that Wayne really does have brain damage and isn't fit to be running the country. Then spend the rest of the season watching him act all crazy, possibly making the Joint Chiefs dress up in clown costumes and making Tom Lennox dance the Macarena for six hours straight. The show could use a little levity.



    Yeah, a little humor wouldn't be a bad thing from time to time. I still have to say I love watching this show. I didn't start watching it until season 5, and I've gone back and watched season 1, and have loved every minute of it.

    Now I've just got to find time to watch seasons 2-4.

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    Tom Lennox has always pissed me off. Don't really know why, just always hated the way he talks, like a in bag...he reminds me of our real president, the Dubya.

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    I watched the Sprint-exclusive preview for next week and Silver Spoons trys to tell Nadia that Milo is the mole in CTU. Which is probably a lie, so someone in CTU is dirty and it's probably Silver Spoons or the guy that gave him the chip, like AHF said. I have a feeling that this season is all going to end up having to do with China again. The presidency is a joke on this show, so Daniels will probably get Wayne removed, fire a nuke on a country allied with China, giving Jack pretense for revenge.

    I know Audrey isn't dead, and if everything I just predicted happens, they'll probably use her as a bargaining chip to get Jack back. The whole giving Jack back to the US ordeal was just a ruse to begin with.



    Yeah, a little humor wouldn't be a bad thing from time to time. I still have to say I love watching this show. I didn't start watching it until season 5, and I've gone back and watched season 1, and have loved every minute of it.

    Now I've just got to find time to watch seasons 2-4.
    Big mistake on your part, IMO. I consider Day 5 to be the best this show has had to offer, present season included. , it's probably some of the best drama I've seen in my entire life. Day 2 and Day 3 are interesting enough (Day 3 is pretty cool, actually). But Day 4 put me to sleep a few times. Who knows, you may like it though. I liken it to Spurs games I have attended after I went to the Finals Game 7. They're fun and all, but nothing will ever compare to that.
    Last edited by J.T.; 03-29-2007 at 07:45 AM.

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    how do people watch this show? ....complete garbage.

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    how do people watch this show? ....complete garbage.
    I ask the same about Lost, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, 90% of reality TV, and the 25 soaps on daytime TV.

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    I ask the same about Lost, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, 90% of reality TV, and the 25 soaps on daytime TV.
    i ask the question about 99% of all shows. its unreal what people will sit through and waste their life watching.

    south park and family guy are two of the few quality shows left. shows that were great but are only reruns now are cheers, seinfeld, and that 70's show (before topher left).

    everything else sucks...

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    It amazes me how much time people waste on the Internet talking about shows they don't watch.

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    I say the Chinese don't want Jack back, but they want something from him.


    Also the re ed guy should take Edgar's place as lovable hadicapped guy at CTU.

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    how do people watch this show? ....complete garbage.
    How do some people have so few social skills that they can routinely turn matters of taste into value judgments?

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    How do some people have so few social skills that they can routinely turn matters of taste into value judgments?
    rugby head hit make talk hard.

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    I say the Chinese don't want Jack back, but they want something from him.


    Also the re ed guy should take Edgar's place as lovable hadicapped guy at CTU.
    Both thoughts had crossed my mind briefly at times and after reading them I have some theories. From the previously mentioned preview we know Silver Spoons throws accusations at Milo next. I would not be surprised if they somehow recruit Rain Man for a couple of hours while they hook jumper cables up to Milo's nuts.

    You're probably right about Jack. As my wife pointed out to me when I told her my theory about the Chinese getting Jack back through Audrey, if they couldn't crack him in two years time they probably don't want him back. For some reason my poorly rested brain came up with this: the Chinese will use Audrey as leverage to get Jack to kill the VP. Daniels will spend the next few hours doing his thing with the attorney general. Either by legal means or Wayne taking a turn for the worse, he'll be back in power around the time that Jack and CTU are finishing off Fayed and restart his nuclear strike plan. The Chinese get wind of this and, realizing the dangers of widespread strife in the middle east and the potential of WW3 and more nukes, try to stop it. When diplomacy and the threat of war fails to stop Daniels they'll go to Bauer, threatening to kill Audrey if he doesn't play ball. Clearly I don't have enough to do at work today.

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    Both thoughts had crossed my mind briefly at times and after reading them I have some theories. From the previously mentioned preview we know Silver Spoons throws accusations at Milo next. I would not be surprised if they somehow recruit Rain Man for a couple of hours while they hook jumper cables up to Milo's nuts.

    You're probably right about Jack. As my wife pointed out to me when I told her my theory about the Chinese getting Jack back through Audrey, if they couldn't crack him in two years time they probably don't want him back. For some reason my poorly rested brain came up with this: the Chinese will use Audrey as leverage to get Jack to kill the VP. Daniels will spend the next few hours doing his thing with the attorney general. Either by legal means or Wayne taking a turn for the worse, he'll be back in power around the time that Jack and CTU are finishing off Fayed and restart his nuclear strike plan. The Chinese get wind of this and, realizing the dangers of widespread strife in the middle east and the potential of WW3 and more nukes, try to stop it. When diplomacy and the threat of war fails to stop Daniels they'll go to Bauer, threatening to kill Audrey if he doesn't play ball. Clearly I don't have enough to do at work today.
    Decent theory, but it completely rules out Pops Bauer. More and more I am starting to think Pops (and his group) had everything to do with setting up Jack at the end of last season. After all, the only lead the Chinese had was Jack, so they wouldn't have been keeping tabs on the four that knew he was still alive. I came to that conclusion because of this. Logan's nature was very weak, and he showed it multiple times. Once he was in custody, Jack would've probably interrogated him and got him to confess the names of the group that helped set everything up. Pops Bauer knows his son too well, so he set up his own son to save face. Probably because he knew whenever Jack got out of China, the case would be closed anyway.

    Stop for a moment to think what the main objective of Pops and Graem's group was last season. They wanted control over the middle eastern oil flow. They failed because CTU found out about Logan's involvement, and without Logan they had no puppet to control anymore. Since that plan failed, they're trying to get control of that oil a different way. I suspect that Pops Bauer's group is behind everything, once again. Except maybe Fayed's attacks. The attacks have been going on for 11 weeks, right? Pops' and his pals have been using that 11 weeks to come up with a plan to use the Fayed attacks as a cover for what they're really doing. Remember Tom Lennox's aide tried to kill Wayne Palmer. They didn't plan for him to be in a coma, they wanted him dead? Why? Because Daniels is probably working for Pops Bauer. Pops knows Palmer wouldn't retaliate with nukes, so he ochestrated a plan to get someone who would into the hot seat.

    Ever wonder why Daniels wants to strike an area with low population density? If he hits a major area, it would complicate their plans of taking over the oil supply if they turn the oil radioactive. It's just a diversion for the US to take over the oil supply. But the way Daniels speaks about retaliating, you'd think he'd want to hit Assad's country where it counts, not fire a warning shot at some extremely sparse-populated area. It doesn't make sense from his point of view about retaliating. We also know that Fayyed got the suitcase nukes from Gredenko, and that the guy at the Russian consolate knew about it, and also that Logan was invovled with this man during last season's events. Is it a coincidence that these guys are all connected? Yeah, because they're all taking orders from Pops Bauer. All along, the plan was to use the terrorist attacks as a reason to provoke the middle east so that the US can get the oil supply. Pops knows that if a small country is faced with going to war with the US, especially on a nuclear scale, they will probably lose, so he's trying to get control of the oil without a war. He gave the suitcase nukes to Fayyed thru his associates to give the US a reason to declare war if they have to, or retaliate with nuclear weapons if/when Fayyed used the nukes on US.

    Obviously, they weren't counting on Palmer getting Jack back, or Jack escaping from Fayyed. As for how the Chinese play into all of this, I'll need some more time to think about that. But I'll need to see a few more episodes because it's all very unclear at the moment.

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    How do some people have so few social skills that they can routinely turn matters of taste into value judgments?
    i'm curious why/how people can watch this stuff. it baffles me...

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    i'm curious why/how people can watch this stuff. it baffles me...
    you already know the answer, so why keep asking?

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    you already know the answer, so why keep asking?
    actually, i don't.

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    Because people have different opinions? Other people may hate South Park or Family Guy. Many even watch stuff like American Idol, which I will never understand. But it takes a true loser to repeatedly enter an area where there are fans of a particular show just to ask meaningless questions and put down the show. For real, what do you get out of this? People watch the show because they like it, alright? There's your answer. Now will you please kindly stfu and leave the topic already?

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    Because people have different opinions? Other people may hate South Park or Family Guy. Many even watch stuff like American Idol, which I will never understand. But it takes a true loser to repeatedly enter an area where there are fans of a particular show just to ask meaningless questions and put down the show. For real, what do you get out of this? People watch the show because they like it, alright? There's your answer. Now will you please kindly stfu and leave the topic already?
    why are you getting upset? its a legit question.

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    we're stupid.

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    i don't think you guys are stupid, i am just curious. if i don't understand something i usually just ask, like i did.

    i have never gotten into shows before, they just don't have any appeal to me. i do, however, enjoy some sitcoms...but i have never made much of a habit to watch the shows i enjoy every week.

    i see the everyone talk about 24, Lost, etc...and i just wonder what the appeal is.

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    why are you getting upset? its a legit question.
    I'm not upset. It's more like annoyance.

    1. It was already answered like 3 times.

    2. Your question just seems pointless to begin with. What do you expect people's answers to be? It's opinion, there's nothing we could say that would change your mind, we simply like the show. I think the chick you're obsessed with doesn't really look all that good, but I could care less, I'm not gonna keep asking you, cause it's your opinion. I just don't see why you care so much that people watch TV shows that you don't.

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    I'm not upset. It's more like annoyance.

    1. It was already answered like 3 times.

    2. Your question just seems pointless to begin with. What do you expect people's answers to be? It's opinion, there's nothing we could say that would change your mind, we simply like the show. I think the chick you're obsessed with doesn't really look all that good, but I could care less, I'm not gonna keep asking you, cause it's your opinion. I just don't see why you care so much that people watch TV shows that you don't.

    nobody answered the question. all anyone said is they just like it...thats not an answer, imo.

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    nobody answered the question. all anyone said is they just like it...thats not an answer, imo.
    Here, I found this for you:

    "What is the appeal of "24"?

    It is the fastest-paced, most exciting telvision out there. But at bottom, the appeal is that, as in the westerns of old and "Dirty Harry" movies of the 1970s, Jack Bauer is a flawed but good man in a struggle against evil, who is there to see that his loved ones are secure and justice is done. To Jack Bauer, as to Clint Eastwood's Detective "Dirty Harry" Callahan, vigilante justice is not only preferable to no justice at all, it is the best kind. Evil men should get what they deserve, without legal complications.

    "24" satisfies the innate demand in all of us that, the law aside, evil should be punished and justice done.

    That the audience for "24" is so loyal and large should tell us something about America and our divisions over the war we are in. "
    Is that alright? I'm just trying to send you on your way satisfied so we can get back to talking about the show.

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    Here, I found this for you:



    Is that alright? I'm just trying to send you on your way satisfied so we can get back to talking about the show.
    ...fair enough.

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    nobody answered the question. all anyone said is they just like it...thats not an answer, imo.
    I like good guy bad guy stories. Plus, I like main characters that can kick anyone's butt. Mix that in with a pretty good storyline and I'm hooked. That's why shows like 24 and the Sopranos have got me hooked. All fall in the Scarface category to me.

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