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An aging past his prime vet? Sounds like a Spur to me.
Smith makes about $2.5 mil more than EWIll, so we would have to include someone else.
An aging past his prime vet? Sounds like a Spur to me.
i say we make some sort of blockbuster deal
the ideal deal would get us magloire, dixon , and t. outlaw, solve all of our problem but probably not happen..other interesting player are garbajosa and anthony parker...garba would fit in well with td a little more quick and athletic than fabricio wit more range..
I've included Oberto.
To be more explicit :
Spurs trade Williams+Oberto+2nd for Smith
Philly trade Smith for Williams+expiring+2nd
team X trade expiring for Oberto
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...nes-sports-nba
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...nes-sports-nbaMaggette, the Clippers' sixth man, said he might have helped to make a difference for the Clippers, who have lost their last two games after winning the opener on their seven-game trip, their longest of the season.
Owner Donald T. Sterling recently made strong comments about his positive view of the seven-year veteran in an impromptu meeting with Maggette, Dunleavy and General Manager Elgin Baylor.
The Clippers thought things were fine with Maggette after Sterling's pep talk, but another group session might be needed.
"It's just more of Dunleavy's [stuff] again," Maggette said. "I don't get it, I really don't. It's crazy. I put in work. I deserve to play.
"It's totally mind-boggling to me. [It's] unbelievable that I couldn't help this team tonight. Why? Why?"
Dunleavy declined to specifically address Maggette's comments, saying only that he had made a coach's decision.
Maggette, who averages 15.2 points, made two of three shots from the field and scored four points.
Third on the team with an average of 5.7 rebounds, Maggette had no rebounds against the Knicks, which might have contributed to Dunleavy's decision.
That's fine, but let him know where he stands, Maggette said.
"Give me an excuse, give me something, just tell me something," Maggette said. "I'm a grown man. I can take it."
On Dec. 15, Maggette said he and Dunleavy "don't see eye to eye. Coach doesn't respect what I do. If that's the case, it might be time for me to go, move on and have a new beginning. It's better for me to go."
In an attempt to end trade speculation, Sterling on Jan. 20 told Maggette, Baylor and Dunleavy that he wanted Maggette to remain with the team. He left the door ajar to trade the Clippers' second-leading scorer, telling Maggette he would permit Baylor and Dunleavy to move him in a deal that might improve the team significantly.
But because of Sterling's firm stance, the price for Maggette probably would be too high for most teams before the Feb. 22 trading deadline.
The Clippers are expected to sign guard Doug Christie to a second 10-day contract after his first expires Friday.
Joe Smith? Have the Spurs really fallen that far?
I think he might be an upgrade over Elson. Does the same things, only better. It's not a horrible suggestion, but it is obvious that we've run through 25 pages of other suggestions and there are only so many available players in the NBA.
This kid is singlehandedly sabatoging any hope that he can co-exist with the Clippers organization and his outburts do serious damage to their leverage in trades. Too bad I don't see his value getting as low or lower than it was when the Spurs got involved last time around. Especially not with the deadline fast approaching. He MIGHT end up on another team, but I doubt it's the Spurs.
Thanks for renewing just a glimmer of hope though....
yes, especially the boarderline PO teams, who still see a chance to qualify, or see the need for improvement will offer more than the Spurs.
Clipper also won't want to trade with a western team, so I expect Miami or Indiana to once more go for him (and finally get him).
Joe is averaging 7 and 5 in ~ 20 minutes. Not too shabby. Expiring contract..
The Guy is no long term solution, but would probably be a servicable addition.
Joe Smith, I think gets a bit of a bad rap, because of stunning past overestimation of his talents- drafted overall#1, McHale thinking he is worth an illegal deal...
Interestingly he is only 7 months older than Elson, and younger than Oberto.
The more I think about it I think he would help the Spurs.
Would it make the difference between a le and no tile? I don't think it would be enough to send the team over the Mavs, but would inch closer.
I don't see anybody else on the 76ers who could be packaged that would make it even better.
the downside about Smith is, that he never was able to perform in the POs. in fact he usually failed big time in the postseason. (except 2003, his only decent PO run)
PO averages: 6.8 PPG/5.1 RPG. that's quite a crash from his 12 PPG / 7 RPG regular season career average.
so I'm not sure that he can help us when it counts.
Good point,
but in one of those runs he only played 8 minutes a game- still 6.8 and 5 is not bad- it's still an open question if he could help/adapt to the Spurs team in time..
I'll be the first to say that I don't think he is a home run definitely put the team over the top, just the more I think about him, I think he help the team.
Granted I haave never watched him criticaly- to paraphrase a friend- Nazr looks good from far but far from good. A lot teams have thought he would help, only to see his deficits after getting him..
I still hope there could be a chance to get James Posey.
he still is mentioned in trade rumors and since the Heat have aquired Eddy Jones, his role will be reduced even more. I guess the Heat know, that he will not resign with them after all what happened this season and the Heat have Dorell Wright as their long shot at SF. they know they can only get some value back, if they trade Posey at deadline.
yes, we don't have much to offer, what could be helpfull for them in the current situation, but it is worth a try.
damn, we need a three team trade again.
Posey is a great defensive addition, but the Spurs already have enough "shooters". If the Spurs add another swingman, I think it should be a "scorer" with a more versatile offensive game.
What does it mean if a player has a player option on the last year of thier contract?
The player can decide to release himself from the current contract. Most players do it if they feel they can get more than they currently make in the open market.
Team option gives the team the right to dump the player w/o consequence or pick up the option for the additional year(s)
does anybody know what the writer is talking about and why he thinks the Bulls and Grizzlies will look for a third team?Is there a possibility that a third team could be involved in a Gasol trade? What are the options or aren't there any? --Kristo, Estonia
Actually, with Andres Nocioni out injured and uncertainty about how that might affect a deal, it's likely the teams will go searching for third parties looking to get involved, perhaps like Portland with Zach Randolph and Jamaal Magloire, the Nets with Vince Carter, the Cavs with Larry Hughes and Anderson Varajeo and the Magic with Grant Hill's expiring contract.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....ulls-headlines
however, let's assume that he knows something and that they are in fact searching for a third team, this would be a scenario that might get the Spurs in a position they could not obtain in a straight 2 teams deal.
(maybe the Bulls might have some reservations about helping the Spurs, because if they get Gasol, they will be favourite to win the East and in the finals they could meet the Spurs)
often a third team is involved, to get some expiring contracts into a deal. this is what the Spurs can offer.
it is interesting, that he mentions Varejao, but is has some logic.
as a result of Ferry's pathetic work, the Cavs are stuck with a team, that is going nowhere, but is also close to paying lux-tax.
(and yes, I know that some here think he did a good work in Cleveland, but I doubt this and the whole desaster will be obvious in one or two years from now). Cavs know, that they likely can't resign Varejao without paying dollar for dollar lux tax for his whole contract.
right now Varejao is the only tradeable asset the Cavs have (outside Lebron), so they have to use him as a teaser to somehow get rid of another contract (Snow, Marshall, Newble, Jones) to get back some cap space, because noone will take Hughes and Z (their huge long term contracts) of their hands.
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both are excellent players and most importantly know how to win championships... there're just a few guys out there who know what it takes to lead a team to the le...
I just don't get why some of the spurs fan want to trade them
The spurs need an athletic bench and compe ive role players, we need the energy of a Malik Rose, the physical impact of a Mike Pietrus and some fresh blood with a good draft choice à la TP and Manu...
I don't believe there are any reasonable trade ideas since we have so little to trade. Nevertheless, Beno and Barry are on the block.
Our greatest need is at point guard. It's foolish to think that a begger like Vaughn can give us anything in the playoffs. Rumors are circulating that Seattle wants to deal Ridnour or Watson...or both. That would work for us and Brent would be back home.
Furthermore, Bruce Bowen shoots like a DLeaguer. So we also need help at the three spot. Especially, if Barry goes. Nocioni 15/5 (Manu's friend) and Rishard Lewis 20/5 will both probably do sign-and-trade deals before the deadline. Either one of those guys would be strong acquisition but I doubt the Spurs have the stones to pay for an impact player like that, since they never have. By the way, the Corey Magette rumors were started by his agent. The Clips have no intention of letting him go.
Still, we are only a couple of players away from being back on top in the West. So let's keep our fingers crossed between now and the 22nd.
I'm still all for this tradeBeno+Williams+Oberto+2nd rounder for Atkins+Swift.
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Beno+ Barry + Williams for...um, poop.
Throw in Scola's rights.
This conversation has reached the absurd level. I couldn't contain myself with the Joe Smith talk. Come on. If it's come to that, we should wait till next year.
???? what are you talking about? there are no such deals during the season.
What is this I hear about Paul Gasol....A trade purposed of E-Will, Beno, and Fabricio....for Gasol. Supposedly, this trade would work out, as well, it's been discussed by Pop....It's on the Daily Dime in ESPN....Has this been discussed?
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