Sure looks like a lot of whining from quite a few Spurs fans tonight. I don't think you have the right to call Suns fans whiners anymore after what I have read on this board tonight. The refs didn't lose the game for the Spurs.
Spurs fans whine for one night, Suns fans whine for the entire summer, and we can't call anyone whiners ... U Suns homers. The officiating sucked in the first half, no parker, weak bench play and you only win by 5? Enjoy another early postseason exit!
Riight thats why Phoenix was blown out???
No one can live by Ifs or Maybes so the past is the past.
The Suns came into San Antonio tonight and beat the Spurs , and there can't be any of that "but we didn't have tony"crap because :
1) The Suns have beat a fully healthy Spurs team
2) Thats like me saying " The Spurs only beat us in game 5 because we didn't have Amare and Diaw "
Yeah the right ... get over it, yall already have your championships god forbid someone beat you in DECEMBER,say good game and move on.
Not all Suns fans whined. Me being one that didn't. You can't blame the officiating, thats weak. Yeah, no Parker hurt the Spurs but Nash is playing hurt so he wasn't up to par on his game at all tonight. I wouldn't expect that if he was healthy. You could also point to the fact that Raja, Nash and Marion all played horrible and we still won. Plus Barbosa took way too many shots and I think made 6 out of 19. I am just happy we gutted out a win at the Spurs arena with many of our players not shooting well and Amare playing like crap.
Interesting passion from a Wizards fan.
hehe: D
if Manu wasn't that a nuisance to Phoenix they wouldn't have spent a dime on Bell
He should learn how to avoid injuring himself when he tries to play defense.
Great game by Timmy.... and Fin and Vaughan... and thats about it.
Suns deserved to win. good game
Spurs deserved to lose.
Now STOP ING WHINING
Next game
Well, Bowen pretty much played Nash Games 3 through 6 in the Semis last year, but I'm sure Pop throws Parker on him from time to time in the regular. Not guarding Nash saves TP to attack the lane, which is where he would have made the most difference last night, as the Suns attempted to rotate out of double teams or as the shot clock ran down.
I'm not trying to discredit what Parker can do on both ends, because he's obviously a good player and had a great playoffs last year. Just I know that Bowen was on Nash almost all the time in the POs last year and Marion can contain Parker when he tries to play sound defense (he's no Bowen, but his length and quickness can disrupt TP's game).
its usually bad news for the spurs if duncan has to statistically dominate a game in the first half. the rest of the squad have to take the load off so duncan will be rested in the second. that's where manu and/or tp often comes in. manu couldn't do it tonight. hopefully next time.
i think playing the suns with grant hill for the first time took the spurs off guard. his defense and clutch shooting were timely late in the game.
Thank you
I think Marion's length bothered Parker in the middle of the playoff series last year. By the end of the series, though, Parker had found ways to attack Marion, even if his shots didn't fall. More importantly, however, Marion's attention to Parker forced the Suns to find someone else -- usually Nash -- to send to double on Duncan. Forcing Nash to bring the double had a domino effect, in my estimation, because Duncan would find Bowen, who would force a rotation and change the matchup with Ginobili. The Spurs were able to get favorable matchups for Manu, whose offense was really the catalyst for the Spurs' wins in Games 5 and 6.
All of that is to say that Parker changes the game in this matchup by forcing the Suns into some really tough decisions about how to defend the Spurs. It may be that they think they've come up with solutions to some of those problems, and perhaps they have. My point is that I don't know that the Suns have the personnel to deal with all 3 of the Spurs biggest offensive threats without relying on some help and I think the minute that the Suns have to help, their defense is compromised.
I still think the Suns showed as much defensive effort as I've seen from them in the D'Antoni era in last night's game and I think that's certainly a step in the right direction for them.
We'll see if it can make the difference in the spring.
Spurs should not of lost that game, terrible D down the stretch
reminded me on that GM4 game where the Spurs blew a chance to go up 3-1
The Suns are just a fluke team with a fluke win. They only beat a team without Parker that they was supposed to beat.
Seriously, though...good game, Suns...see you in the playoffs...
Last edited by TampaDude; 12-18-2007 at 08:08 PM.
I agree with you on a lot of points, and have alternative thoughts on others... especially with the Suns able to deal with Parker, Duncan, and Manu on the court at the same time. Still, I hope that Grant Hill might be able to provide some extra defensive help, especially if Skinner is able to make Duncan work hard on the other end. Also, I had said that when Marion tries hard to defend, then he can disrupt Parker. It's when he doesn't that he gives Parker a chance to create.
BTW, this was the Spurs' first home loss (playoffs, Finals, pre-season, or regular season) since the Horry/Nash incident.
Jeremy, they wouldn't have lost if Parker were playing... everyone knows he goes for 30 against the Suns every time and never turns the ball over.
This obviously ignores the fact that when Nash goes for 18 pts and 14 assists, he's contributing at least 46 of his team's points... when Parker goes for 32 and 2 assists, he's contributing at least 36 points.
Bottom line is that the Spurs aren't going 41-0 at home.
The Suns are a good team. Their greatest strength is point guard (Nash).
Spurs were MINUS their starting point guard (Parker) who happens to be a guy who plays Nash as well as anybody in the league.
If Parker plays, Spurs win.
Without Parker, Spurs almost won.
What would happen if Spurs with Parker plays Suns without Nash? 120-88 Spurs !!!
No worries!
Far fewer Suns fans on the game blog.
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