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    Yeah, that's crazy for Bertans to take a paycut to give Gasol more money. The Spurs actually had about $2.5 Million in cap space in my estimation before signing their over-the-cap deals. I guess they absolutely could not find a way to use it.
    so what do you think about this Monroe talk? And how would it fit with our cap?

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    If true, the only reason I think the Spurs are looking into Monroe, is due diligence. Essentially trying to find out if his stock is so low, that he could be had in damn near a straight salary dump. Granted, they don't have the space to absorb his salary, but that's where the third team would come in.

    He obviously wouldn't make sense on the roster and there's probably a 99.99% chance of this not happening, but as we all know, they desperately need another rotation big and for all his warts, he's far better than what's left in the bargain bin.
    I agree, he is better than what's out there now, but not the case as far as trades go. Gibson is one example I mentioned but lots of other teams out there with addl bigs to be had at Monroe's price tag. It's odd since it limits next years cap flexibility to some degree (unless Pau is gone), he plays minimal defense (Pop pet peeve = year long dog house), bad rep/something (no team wants to keep him), less defensive flexibility if Green is gone (Simmons is no Green on defense), and I just don't believe rumor is true honestly.

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    I've been down this toilet flush semi-recently myself.
    Some people learn... some don't. Thankfully I rather enjoy hard liquor and all of my other vices which makes this site more fun.
    Forcefield activated... how impenetrable is it, though?
    Here we go...
    Counter punch! But did it land?

    LOL... as if the conversation hadn't already gone far enough down the rabbit hole. It sounds like you're narrating a Batman comic.


    Hey, how 'bout them Spurs, huh?

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    LOL... as if the conversation hadn't already gone far enough down the rabbit hole. It sounds like you're narrating a Batman comic.


    Hey, how 'bout them Spurs, huh?
    I'm excited as . I like Bertans and think he's going to be useful. I think Kyle is either going to sink, or swim this year and I like the dynamic of Pau on the team.
    Otherwise, I'm going to treat this site as my personal comic book.
    It's a of a lot more fun that way.

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    I'm excited as . I like Bertans and think he's going to be useful. I think Kyle is either going to sink, or swim this year and I like the dynamic of Pau on the team.
    Otherwise, I'm going to treat this site as my personal comic book.
    It's a of a lot more fun that way.

    I'm starting to think your hard liquor approach is the way to go. You mentioned some other vices. Maybe your should PM me, and I'll give them a try, too.

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    I agree with this. I don't care that Tony is our best pg. When we play the Warriors I'd rather play lineups that don't involve Parker even if that means more dribbling for Kawhi.
    I suggested two guys. Murray as an off the ball guy. Let's assume he doesn't know about the PG spot and needs to learn. If he can play defense and shoot a 3, play him mostly off the ball. He probably will take off on his own on occasion bc he's a transition player, but he needs to be coached just like Tony. He's more likely to give someone fits with good coaching to someone on defense, will grab loose balls, boards, than Tony will and he will probably make an energy play here or there. That's more than Tony does on defense. In the initial Tony stages when he was a Dejounte age, from my understanding it was all "give Timmy the Ball". Dejounte can give Kawhi, Paul and LMA and whoever the ball, just the same, while he develops his own game. The Spurs don't need a ball dominant old fashioned old PG who is not even a good passer right this second.

    The other idea I had for Pop if things were too disorganized out there and what he really wanted was a leader and game manager. Then Slowmo is that guy. He's the most unorthodox guy we have, but he's a true PG/game manager in the sense that he will look for teammates and get them the ball, will control tempo, understand every set, timing, etc. He's the most cerebral of the young players in the team and if the team is looking for leadership in the young crew, he has it. He won't be prone to heroballing or throwing the ball away. Heck I don't know if it will work, but he's done it b4. He was actually directing the offense from the 4 spot in SL. He did that in garbage time last season too. The Spurs are going somewhere with him. I just can't tell exactly, but directing an offense from whatever spot has been a part of it.

    In the end, it doesn't matter, I know Pop will stay traditional. I just thought its about time that Pop starts throwing wrinkles out there for others to worry about. I mean this is if those Monroe rumors are true, which they probably aren't.

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    I'm starting to think your hard liquor approach is the way to go. You mentioned some other vices. Maybe your should PM me, and I'll give them a try, too.
    Always liked you. You my megafriend, megabro!
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    I agree, he is better than what's out there now, but not the case as far as trades go. Gibson is one example I mentioned but lots of other teams out there with addl bigs to be had at Monroe's price tag. It's odd since it limits next years cap flexibility to some degree (unless Pau is gone), he plays minimal defense (Pop pet peeve = year long dog house), bad rep/something (no team wants to keep him), less defensive flexibility if Green is gone (Simmons is no Green on defense), and I just don't believe rumor is true honestly.
    I don't believe it to be true either; just chiming in on the news of the day.

    I usually disregard rumors that make no sense, even if they come from credible sources, like Stein reporting the Spurs' supposed interest in Conley.

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    I don't believe it to be true either; just chiming in on the news of the day.

    I usually disregard rumors that make no sense, even if they come from credible sources, like Stein reporting the Spurs' supposed interest in Conley.
    Yeah, but... you like... use your head and stuff.
    That is so yesterday. Come on over, take your shirt off, grab a towel and watch some Megaforce for a hot minute.
    We'll get that head thinking fixed right quick.

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    Fat Head only schooled Matt "GOAT" Barnes in one of the few games he started:


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    Always liked you. You my megafriend, megabro!
    Yeah... I'm currently watching Megaforce.

    Oh, man. If I started drinking, watching Megaforce, and checking this place on my computer all at the same time, I'm afraid I'd go all Randolph Carter. You're playing with dangerous here.

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    I suggested two guys. Murray as an off the ball guy. Let's assume he doesn't know about the PG spot and needs to learn. If he can play defense and shoot a 3, play him mostly off the ball. He probably will take off on his own on occasion bc he's a transition player, but he needs to be coached just like Tony. He's more likely to give someone fits with good coaching to someone on defense, will grab loose balls, boards, than Tony will and he will probably make an energy play here or there. That's more than Tony does on defense. In the initial Tony stages when he was a Dejounte age, from my understanding it was all "give Timmy the Ball". Dejounte can give Kawhi, Paul and LMA and whoever the ball, just the same, while he develops his own game. The Spurs don't need a ball dominant old fashioned old PG who is not even a good passer right this second.

    The other idea I had for Pop if things were too disorganized out there and what he really wanted was a leader and game manager. Then Slowmo is that guy. He's the most unorthodox guy we have, but he's a true PG/game manager in the sense that he will look for teammates and get them the ball, will control tempo, understand every set, timing, etc. He's the most cerebral of the young players in the team and if the team is looking for leadership in the young crew, he has it. He won't be prone to heroballing or throwing the ball away. Heck I don't know if it will work, but he's done it b4. He was actually directing the offense from the 4 spot in SL. He did that in garbage time last season too. The Spurs are going somewhere with him. I just can't tell exactly, but directing an offense from whatever spot has been a part of it.

    In the end, it doesn't matter, I know Pop will stay traditional. I just thought its about time that Pop starts throwing wrinkles out there for others to worry about. I mean this is if those Monroe rumors are true, which they probably aren't.
    What happens when Murray gives the Warriors 9 extra possessions to score because he turns the ball over so much? I like the kid's length, but he's far from a good defender right now. Other than getting lucky gamble steals, I thought he looked quite bad on defense. He has the tools and we may talk about him starting in 3 years, but if he plays significant minutes versus the Warriors, it's bc we're down by 20. He isn't the answer this year.

    And if you are gambling on trading away the only PG on your roster with the idea that Slomo will play point guard against the Warriors, then you are quite the risk taker. Pop has not used him in that role despite how helpful it would be if he could play PG, so I think they've seen him in practice and determined he only makes it in the NBA as a stretch 4. We don't know how good/bad he will be this year. But my money is on mixed results, which means I still prefer Parker as the starter unless the Spurs trade for another starting PG. that doesn't look possible right now.

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    If anything I feel like, looking at the type of roster Kidd is building in Milwaukee, they would probably want Anderson in a deal imo

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    Oh, man. If I started drinking, watching Megaforce, and checking this place on my computer all at the same time, I'm afraid I'd go all Randolph Carter. You're playing with dangerous here.

    I have zero doubt and it would be AWESOME.
    I look forward to you giving in and joining the Dark Side. We have a TON of fun over here...

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    If anything I feel like, looking at the type of roster Kidd is building in Milwaukee, they would probably want Anderson in a deal imo
    Too true. Lol. They want an all 6'9 and over team.

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    Too true. Lol. They want an all 6'9 and over team.
    We could build him up as a poor man's Simmons (76ers) who could be their backup point-forward lol!

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    We could build him up as a poor man's Simmons (76ers) who could be their backup point-forward lol!
    Even if they could, what could they get for him? Nobody under 6'9".

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    Assuming they moved TP to get him:

    Kawhi Leonard
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Pau Gasol
    Danny Green
    POINT GUARD ?

    Greg Monroe
    Dedmon
    Patty Mills
    Manu Ginobili
    Kyle Anderson

    Jonathan Simmons
    Davis Bertans
    Dejounte Murray
    Bryn Forbes
    Archiholdthemayo

    Kawhi Leonard
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Pau Gasol
    Danny Green
    Manu Ginobili

    Greg Monroe
    Dedmon
    Patty Mills
    Jonathan Simmons
    Kyle Anderson

    Bryn Forbes
    Davis Bertans
    Dejounte Murray
    Archiholdthemayo

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    Kawhi Leonard
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Pau Gasol
    Danny Green
    Manu Ginobili

    Greg Monroe
    Dedmon
    Patty Mills
    Jonathan Simmons
    Kyle Anderson

    Bryn Forbes
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    Dejounte Murray
    Archiholdthemayo
    That team will be dead in the water by the playoffs unless someone is spelling Manu for a of a lot of minutes in both the RS and the playoffs.

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    That team will be dead in the water by the playoffs unless someone is spelling Manu for a of a lot of minutes in both the RS and the playoffs.
    We should be up 30 in 15 mins or less though... at that point you can trot in Archiholdthemayo, tbh

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    We should be up 30 in 15 mins or less though... at that point you can trot in Archiholdthemayo, tbh
    Damn, You got me.

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    Every time I look at your post totals, its up by like 20K from when I last looked.
    That legit? You are a maniac.

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    Love Manu but at this point in his career, he can't play more than 15 minutes a game with a high likelihood of injury as a 39 year old guard. You can only rely on him as a bench player.

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    Every time I look at your post totals, its up by like 20K from when I last looked.
    That legit? You are a maniac.
    I have no idea, I don't even keep track. Probably 70% of them are from Game threads...

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