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    This dude is dying at the thought of having to live in SA

    Fukin bum overrating himself

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    WTF? That's a much better offer than the Lakers' trash.
    Dario Saric, Covington and a pick which may not even be good? Dario is alright but Covington is mediocore. Philly needs to give up alot more in that trade. The Lakers package is way better if they can add in picks, I'd rather have Ingram over Saric/Covington by a mile.

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    You know I'm just f'n with you bruh, you're a good guy regardless of what happens with the cancer mute

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    Makes sense, that would allow Pop to finish coaching with shots at playoffs in his last two seasons (I'd start the rebuild immediately and start making trades for more picks).
    I think the highlight is the Miami pick. This type of trade allows the Spurs to stay compe ive with players who can play now, sign a free agent, and get a pick that could be a lottery pick. They might even be able to get back to the beautiful game.

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    That pick is unprotected, and likely to be at least 10 spots higher than any pick we get from LA.
    Is Miami really going to be that bad for the pick to be high enough? They generally try to improve the team quickly and don't tank for picks. Its in 2 years right? I doubt they would be out of the playoffs in the east.

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    I think the highlight is the Miami pick. This type of trade allows the Spurs to stay compe ive with players who can play now, sign a free agent, and get a pick that could be a lottery pick. They might even be able to get back to the beautiful game.
    Why? Did you hear any rumors about them wanting to trade LMA?

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    Philly would need to add in Fultz and Smith, just those Saric/Covington + pick is a really bad package.
    Edit: 2021 pick

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    Philly would need to add in Fultz and Smith, just those Saric/Covington + pick is a really bad package.
    Edit: 2021 pick
    Yeah, but Saric is a Euro, and a that makes him twice as valuable to Pop.

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    Yeah, but Saric is a Euro, and a that makes him twice as valuable to Pop.
    Because Euro players don't care where they play. They're just happy to be here.

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    I really wonder what kind of deal Silver, ESPN and the rest of the power in sports are offering Spurs ownership and Pop behind the scenes, tbh..there's definitely some scheming going on, 100..

    There's no way they're going to pass up an opportunity for this potential series, it would be their biggest draw of all-time..
    What kind of throws a monkey wrench into that is it would just be a WCF matchup and wouldn't have the same television reach as the NBA Finals since it would be on TNT. Silver would nut a tsunami if the superteam could be formed in New York.

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    If this was another team, I'd probably take the deal if it was Ingram, a lottery pick(top 3 protected at worst) from a mediocre to bad team(that they would acquire from trading Lonzo), another mid-to-late 1st and filler..

    But the fact that it's the Lakers and that the Spurs would be bringing them back to life is the part that makes it difficult those pieces are not worth the loss of dignity..

    Such a difficult position for Pop, though..trying to balance the well-being of the franchise vs. giving the man who quit on you what he demands vs. helping the Lakers..a few months after losing your wife..
    Frankly, I think this is why so many people here hate the idea of this trade. It's not so much the pieces since we lose on any trade we make involving Kawhi, but rather that its giving the Lakers life. Frankly I could give a about that.

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    Yeah, but Saric is a Euro, and a that makes him twice as valuable to Pop.
    I’m sure they could get a better package from a lot of other teams in the league like the Suns or something.

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    Saric is a role player. They're different players, but he's the equivalent of Kuzma in this. Covington might as well be too, since he's also a secondary asset.

    Spurs will want someone with go-to scoring ability. The entire perimeter corpse can't be comprised of role players. They need someone to play off of. Ingram and Kuzma would fill that role by default.

    At people worrying about Ingram and Kuzma not wanting to be here long term. They'll get to be featured players, probably build a bond with the other young guys and be restricted on their next contracts.

    Neither has a high enough upside to alter the course of a franchise anyway. The players teams need to worry about appeasing are superstars and stars who think they're superstars.

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    Philly would need to add in Fultz and Smith, just those Saric/Covington + pick is a really bad package.
    Edit: 2021 pick
    I imagine they might toss in the 2019 protected pick (Sac-Boston) too to get it done.

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    That's the starting bid Philly can add more, especially given that they are pursuing LeBron.

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    Frankly, I think this is why so many people here hate the idea of this trade. It's not so much the pieces since we lose on any trade we make involving Kawhi, but rather that its giving the Lakers life. Frankly I could give a about that.
    He could end up there anyway next season anyway, although Lebron/PG may not sign this season. But if he did if the Lakers kept the pieces they would be much better if they didn’t have to trade them. If we trade him there, the Lakers will basically have to sign a bunch of minimum contracts.

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    I imagine they might toss in the 2019 protected pick (Sac-Boston) too to get it done.
    Philly in win now mode is LeBron going to pass up Simmons + Embiid + Leonard and easier path to Finals? Also close to home.

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    I know there's a lot of hate towards Covington because he's not a scorer, but he could help where no one else listed so far can, and that is the loss of defense when KL is bone. Covington is an excellent defender. Also, it might allow us some room to sign a free agent who could start.

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    He's nothing. You don't pay 'nothing' $11M per year. That's a worse deal than Patty, who actually produced at one point and contributed to a championship. The deal also runs longer than Patty's.

    Let's be clear. This is a rebuild. You DO NOT take on ty contracts like this during a rebuild.
    So many Spurs fans still stuck in the mindset of the pre raise cap. That's not a ty contract.

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    Philly in win now mode is LeBron going to pass up Simmons + Embiid + Leonard and easier path to Finals? Also close to home.
    And the Spurs are in win 2030 mode?

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    What kind of throws a monkey wrench into that is it would just be a WCF matchup and wouldn't have the same television reach as the NBA Finals since it would be on TNT. Silver would nut a tsunami if the superteam could be formed in New York.
    True, but still, the Lakers with LeBron and a legit super team? How could they pass that up?

    Also, while the Finals ratings held up better than I thought considering it was such a lopsided matchup, I have to assume that the league wants the Warriors to lose, at some point, this isn't 90s Jordan who was beloved by the masses(outside of New York) and drew numbers in any scenario..

    The only way the Warriors break up is due to money and growing tired of each other..their ownership will gladly continue paying that colossal luxury tax bill if they're winning les and I'm sure the players will remain happy with each other if they keep winning, as well..

    This LeBron/Kawhi/George team is probably the only realistic chance of beating them, next season..

    Lakers with LeBron in the Finals would draw ratings regardless of opponent, anyways..if they get Boston in there, even better..

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    In best case scenario for Lakers landing kawhi and lebron, what is your prediciton on warriors Lakers series ? Not even a guarantee series win let alone going to 7 games.. and in the process you give up tons of future talent and building blocks with Hart, kuzma , ingram, ball, etc.

    It's a gamble amongst a gamble with the warriors being there

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    Philly in win now mode is LeBron going to pass up Simmons + Embiid + Leonard and easier path to Finals? Also close to home.
    Yep. Then watch Ainge scramble and throw the Jaylen + Kyrie + multiple 1sts offer at the Spurs to block the Embiid-Simmons-LeBron-Kawhi dynasty.

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    In best case scenario for Lakers landing kawhi and lebron, what is your prediciton on warriors Lakers series ? Not even a guarantee series win let alone going to 7 games.. and in the process you give up tons of future talent and building blocks with Hart, kuzma , ingram, ball, etc.

    It's a gamble amongst a gamble with the warriors being there
    I think the Warriors still win because of the chemistry from their core.

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    Can somebody run over this got with a truck.
    So playing basketball as your ing JOB and getting paid $Ms isn't fun enough? FOH

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