Official All Kobe, All The Time Thread

[Allanon]

Really? Well Kobe never won without a skilled big man.

And Jordan never won without one of the "Greatest 50 players of All Time"

Your point?

[MiamiHeat]

And Jordan never won without one of the "Greatest 50 players of All Time"

Your point?

Puhlease, 'greatest 50 players of all time' was awarded in 1996 and it has absolutely zero value as an award. It's not a real NBA award, just a celebratory anniversary thing.

Since then, Pippen has been pushed out of that top 50.

also, Pippen made that list due to MJ carrying him.

whereas, Kobe is not carrying Shaq, other way around.

and many people believe Pau=Kobe in Lakers MVP terms, or even Pau>Kobe in Lakers MVP terms.

[Allanon]

Puhlease, 'greatest 50 players of all time' was awarded in 1996 and it has absolutely zero value as an award. It's not a real NBA award, just a celebratory anniversary thing.

Since then, Pippen has been pushed out of that top 50.

also, Pippen made that list due to MJ carrying him.

whereas, Kobe is not carrying Shaq, other way around.

and many people believe Pau=Kobe in Lakers MVP terms, or even Pau>Kobe in Lakers MVP terms.

None of this changes the fact that Jordan didn't win jack without Pippen, one of the "50 Greatest Players of All Time".

I don't see the relevance of "Kobe can't win without a skilled big man".

"Kobe can't win without Shaq" had a much better ring to it

... oh wait

[MiamiHeat]

ok, but he DID win 10 scoring les, DPOY, 5 league MVP's, without pippen

those are individual accolades that have nothin to do with pippen

Kobe doesn't have them. 1 mvp in 14 seasons, 0 dpoy, 2 scoring les in 14 years

[Allanon]

We all know Jordan is the GOAT and has great personal accolades, etc, etc.

This still has nothing to do with Kobe winning without a "skilled big man". Just like Jordan couldn't win without a "Top 50 Greatest of All time" player.

It's as irrelevant as "Kobe can't win without Shaq".

[j.dizzle]

So if Bron wins a le this year are we gonna hear "Lebron can't win without Shaq" too hahahaha this site is in comedy. Its true Jordan wouldnt have won nada without Pippen but he is still the GOAT.

[MiamiHeat]

We all know Jordan is the GOAT and has great personal accolades, etc, etc.

This still has nothing to do with Kobe winning without a "skilled big man". Just like Jordan couldn't win without a "Top 50 Greatest of All time" player.

It's as irrelevant as "Kobe can't win without Shaq".

Shaq and Gasol > Pippen

period

[j.dizzle]

Shaq and Gasol > Pippen

period

Son, no offense but your're trying too hard. We all understand that you wanna make Kobe look bad as much as possible but at a certain point it just gets old.

[Allanon]

Shaq and Gasol > Pippen

period

Shaq, yes. Gasol, no.

"Kobe can't win without Shaq" was clever but now it's dead.

Step up your game guys.

[MiamiHeat]

Gasol is better than Pippen.

Fact.

17 ppg, 11 rbg, 3 apg, 1.8 blocks per game.

[Allanon]

Gasol is better than Pippen.

Fact.

17 ppg, 11 rbg, 3 apg, 1.8 blocks per game.

Fact.

Pippen got to the ECF semis without Jordan. Pippen "Top 50 Greatest Player of All Time"

Gasol never won 1 Playoff game without Kobe. "3 time All Star"

[himat]

Dude you guys are such haters.

Kobe has his many flaws, but the guy wins. And even if Pippen isn't one of the 50 greatest players, he was a great player.

I hate the Lakers but GTFO with your weak arguments that Gasol is >Kobe blah blah blah.

[MiamiHeat]

Fact.

Pippen got to the ECF semis without Jordan. Pippen "Top 50 Greatest Player of All Time"

Gasol never won 1 Playoff game without Kobe. "3 time All Star"

Bulls were previously a 3 peat team prior to 94.

Memphis Grizzlies suck , and had no business sniffing the playoffs if not for Gasol.

try again.

[Allanon]

Bulls were previously a 3 peat team prior to 94.

Memphis Grizzlies suck , and had no business sniffing the playoffs if not for Gasol.

try again.

Grizzlies "sucked" enough to win 50 games.

But couldn't even win 1 game in the Playoffs.

0-12. There's no excuse for that.

Even TMac won a few playoff games and he's never been out of the first round.

Try again.

[himat]

Bulls were previously a 3 peat team prior to 94.

Memphis Grizzlies suck , and had no business sniffing the playoffs if not for Gasol.

try again.

But they did get to the playoffs and still couldn't win a game. The Lakers had no business competing with the Suns a few seasons back but Kobe almost lead them to a monumental upset.

You are an idiot.

[himat]

Does anyone one of your posts not talk about Kobe? I swear you have a secret man crush on him because you always talk about him.

[MiamiHeat]

Grizzlies "sucked" enough to win 50 games.

But couldn't even win 1 game in the Playoffs.

0-12. There's no excuse for that.

Even TMac won a few playoff games and he's never been out of the first round.

Try again.

2004 - Spurs
2005 - Suns
2006 - Dallas (made it to Finals)

All of those were top teams in those years.

Not comparable to a 3 peat bulls team

[Allanon]

2004 - Spurs
2005 - Suns
2006 - Dallas (made it to Finals)

All of those were top teams in those years.

Not comparable to a 3 peat bulls team

Pippen made it to the ECF semis.

Pau well, he didn't even win 1 game in the Playoffs but he won some regular season games against these "Top teams".
2004 Spurs vs Grizz - Grizz beat Spurs 1 time regular season - 0-4 Playoffs
2005 Suns vs Grizz - Grizz beat Suns 2 times regular season - 0-4 Playoffs
2006 Mavs vs Grizz - Grizz beat Mavs 1 time regular season - 0-4 Playoffs

No excuses for 0-12 Playoffs.

Even TMAC did better than that

Try again.

[Mike D]

Does anyone one of your posts not talk about Kobe? I swear you have a secret man crush on him because you always talk about him.

[ChrisRichards]

MiamiHeat sucks in logic, he makes Kobe critics look bad. Its a natural thing to hate, but step up yo game sonny, all them Laker s are running a train up in that sweet little ass of yours.

[Metheny]

And Jordan never won without one of the "Greatest 50 players of All Time"

Your point?

Interesting fact Jordan has 2 rings and 2 final mvps where he had no other allstar selected teamate on his team


thats pretty incredible...

[Metheny]

Its pretty funny how kobe's not even the best laker ever and is getting compared to a MJ lol

[Allanon]

Interesting fact Jordan has 2 rings and 2 final mvps where he had no other allstar selected teamate on his team


thats pretty incredible...

Interesting fact. MJ never won jack without one of the "50 Greatest players of All Time". MJ couldn't do it alone, why should Kobe be expected to?

To say "Kobe can't win without a skilled big man" is just stupid people trying to grasp at straws since they lost Shaq.

"Kobe can't win without Shaq" was fun and catchy ... a year ago.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kobe can't win without Derek Fisher is more accurate..

[Allanon]

Kobe can't win without Derek Fisher is more accurate..

Kobe can win in spite of Derek Fisher is more true

Fish is a great crunch time player and I love the guy, but he has no business being a starting point guard on a Championship team.

It's no secret that every quick point guard in the NBA burns the Lakers for 20+ every game.