are the spurs better without parker?

[mo7888]

I wonder if the team would consider stretching Tony next summer. I can see them not trading him out of respect, but they can't keep him on the roster if he doesn't get better. So the compromise seems to be to either trade him to a team he wants to play for (probably not that hard) who wants him (probably not easy at all) and failing that to release him and hope he signs a decent deal somewhere else that will allow them to claim set-off relief in 2018-2019. That would leave the Spurs with about $13 Million in cap space. That doesn't seem like a lot, but it also gives you Mills' cap hold, so you could probably bring back the whole bench minus Manu and Bertans, Murray and Forbes in addition to the non-Parker starters. The issues are that 1) They are missing a second PG and have almost no means of getting one and 2) If you factor in Mills and Simmons getting deals far in excess of their holds, rookie players getting that extra 20 percent and the room exception, the team is threatening the tax hard core.

This would be the roster:

PG: Mills, Murray, Forbes
SG: Green, Simmons, ...
SF: Leonard, Anderson, ...
PF: Aldridge, Lee, Bertans
C: Gasol, Dedmon, ...

Would probably be ideal to draft a guard in June and bring over Milutinov to balance out the roster.

Or they could keep Parker, and stay over the cap. That would mean that they'd have to hope Dedmon would take the MLE, but that's not a horrible be with it being projected at $8.7 Million. That would be $37M/4 at its max, which is insane. Then you could give Patty whatever he wants to be the starter and tell Lee it's min, LLE or GTFO. Also could keep Manu for whatever deal, but that's not ideal either.

PG: Mills, Parker, Murray
SG: Green, Simmons, Forbes
SF: Leonard, Anderson, ...
PF: Aldridge, Bertans, ...
C: Gasol, Dedmon, Milutinov

With the pick, the LLE (like $7M/2) and min deals to fill the other two spots.

I like 1st option but, it really depends on how much mental growth Murray shows this year and over the summer. I think we probably sign a Garino type for wing depth and bring over milutinov, as you suggested.

[SAGirl]

I wonder if the team would consider stretching Tony next summer. I can see them not trading him out of respect, but they can't keep him on the roster if he doesn't get better. So the compromise seems to be to either trade him to a team he wants to play for (probably not that hard) who wants him (probably not easy at all) and failing that to release him and hope he signs a decent deal somewhere else that will allow them to claim set-off relief in 2018-2019. That would leave the Spurs with about $13 Million in cap space. That doesn't seem like a lot, but it also gives you Mills' cap hold, so you could probably bring back the whole bench minus Manu and Bertans, Murray and Forbes in addition to the non-Parker starters. The issues are that 1) They are missing a second PG and have almost no means of getting one and 2) If you factor in Mills and Simmons getting deals far in excess of their holds, rookie players getting that extra 20 percent and the room exception, the team is threatening the tax hard core.

This would be the roster:

PG: Mills, Murray, Forbes
SG: Green, Simmons, ...
SF: Leonard, Anderson, ...
PF: Aldridge, Lee, Bertans
C: Gasol, Dedmon, ...

Would probably be ideal to draft a guard in June and bring over Milutinov to balance out the roster.

Or they could keep Parker, and stay over the cap. That would mean that they'd have to hope Dedmon would take the MLE, but that's not a horrible be with it being projected at $8.7 Million. That would be $37M/4 at its max, which is insane. Then you could give Patty whatever he wants to be the starter and tell Lee it's min, LLE or GTFO. Also could keep Manu for whatever deal, but that's not ideal either.

PG: Mills, Parker, Murray
SG: Green, Simmons, Forbes
SF: Leonard, Anderson, ...
PF: Aldridge, Bertans, ...
C: Gasol, Dedmon, Milutinov

With the pick, the LLE (like $7M/2) and min deals to fill the other two spots.

Thanks for this post Chinook.
I like to speculate about roster construction a lot, but I do get confused about what needs to happen to retain some guys. It might be too early to say, but Tony developing bad knees could spell the end for him. He has already been breaking down for 2-3 seasons midway through and he stated due to aging he's now taking longer to recover, etc. But it's a bad sign to have a knee injury to start the season and him trying to play through it. I see shades of Tim with the knee issues, and Tony being a formerly speedy guard, who still needs jets to play (even if they are selectively used) could doom him. Something to keep track of.

Tony's knee watch...

[Chinook]

Thanks for this post Chinook.
I like to speculate about roster construction a lot, but I do get confused about what needs to happen to retain some guys. It might be too early to say, but Tony developing bad knees could spell the end for him. He has already been breaking down for 2-3 seasons midway through and he stated due to aging he's now taking longer to recover, etc. But it's a bad sign to have a knee injury to start the season and him trying to play through it. I see shades of Tim with the knee issues, and Tony being a formerly speedy guard, who still needs jets to play (even if they are selectively used) could doom him. Something to keep track of.

Tony's knee watch...

Medical retirement would be an interesting development. The main thing to understand is that he wouldn't get the Spurs cap relief next off-season, but I guess it would get them an injury exception which would be like an extra MLE for one-year deals. Might be enough to get someone like Teodosic to come over. And with him being an Arenas RFA after that, it wouldn't be very hard to keep him if he turned out to be any good.

[sasaint]

There is just no way they trade him to appease us... Remember Harlem and his wisdom on this.



Acceptance is the path to enlightenment. lol

I think at least some experimenting in the bench is in order when he gets back. The bench was typically Manu's realm, but he's got to be a part of the blend right now and he's played with Tony his whole NBA career. I think the two of them will make it work. We will just have to hope Pop is more open to shake things up. Pop seems to vacillate in what he wants. He seems more willing to mix guys up than last season when he was so strict with the SL in particular, keeping them together and refusing to adjust that lineup no matter how much they struggled at times. I think the team having so many young players who need experience and seasoning, on top of the injuries have allowed for experimentation this early. It's possible that had Tony and Danny not been injured we never would have seen what we have seen... though guys have been saying Tony needed to be benched since last season...

That would be my guess (and my preference), assuming Tony isn't completely done. Besides, I am kind of interested to see if that wouldn't give us a preview of the starting unit going forward: Patty, Danny, Kawhi, LMA, Gasol.

[SASdynasty!]

No they're not.

[Clipper Nation]

Spurs would be losing by 30 right now with Porker.

[dabom]

Spurs would be losing by 30 right now with Porker.

[dabom]

Spurs are missing green.

[Chris]

Spurs looking completely lost on offense without MVParker tonight imo

[dabom]

Spurs looking completely lost on offense without MVParker tonight imo

It's the defense dumbass.

[dabom]

We've already seen what porker brings to a clippers spurs series. And it ain't the 2012 version.

[Chris]

It's the defense dumbass.

that

[dabom]

that

We scored 55. They scored 70+.

[Chris]

We scored 55. They scored 70+.

Spurs have 9 turnovers w/o MVParker running the offense. Guess how many points the Clippers have scored on those turnovers? Look at how many points we're behind

[dabom]

Spurs have 9 turnovers w/o MVParker running the offense. Guess how many points the Clippers have scored on those turnovers? Look at how many points we're behind

The clippers have one turnover. ZERO ing defense from the Spurs. Uneducated vanilla main stream fan.

[SASdynasty!]

Spurs looking completely lost on offense without MVParker tonight imo

Lol vanilla fans that thought Parker's days were done. This team is a lottery team without MVParker.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs looking completely lost on offense without MVParker tonight imo

[gambit1990]

spurs aren't missing parker. last night they missed green, duncan, defense.

not surprised the spurs lost. i specifically brought up concern about playing the clippers over the summer.

[hater]

Lol vanilla fans that thought Parker's days were done. This team is a lottery team without MVParker.

[TheGreatYacht]

OP is a ing got

[SASdynasty!]

Lol this team without MVParker

[hater]

at all dat vanilla favgot posters that dont know basketball

[dabom]

at all dat vanilla favgot posters that dont know basketball

[SASdynasty!]

Back to .500 without Parker with the nailbiting win against Dallas at home.

[dabom]

Premature ejaculation is bad thing. Ya need to go get it checked out.