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    If Spurs loses Demar next season, Spurs will have a difficult time scoring. A playoff team would need at least a star, 2 and more and will be a contender. It’s still too early to say DJ will be that until he proves more this year, that he can carry the team. He has shown great progress. The ideal would be to get the 20/10 FP/C, resign Demar, and hope the rest made great improvements, DJ, Derrick, Keldon, Jakob, Lonnie, Devin and Samanic. That would make as a contender. Hopefully Samanic could back either PF/C depending on the lineup.
    We had 2 stars and missed the playoffs, while teams with none made the playoffs...having the right group of ppl and playing the right way is more important than having a "star"... Westbrook is a star... There's a ton of players I would rather have on my team who aren't stars over westbrook

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    I guess that's why I said ideal. It's a goal, however the PATFO do it. They're the one's making millions to sort things out.

    Maybe DDR would take a paycut, if it would help sign a 20/10 PF/C. Maybe that 20/10 PF/C would do the same and sign favorably with the Spurs salary cap.

    Because if they could sell the idea, that a Demar + 20/10 PF/C + improved DJ, White, Keldon, and Co. = Contender.

    Let the PATFO do the math.
    Why on earth do u think DeMar DeRozan can lead any team to a ring? He wasn't even CLOSE to doing it in his prime

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    I assume it’s a Sanwich/Portle paring at 4/5 next year.

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    I don't see how Wagner and Tre impact Lonnie's minutes unless we slide everyone up and play small again, something like this:

    48 minutes of PG: DJ (26 mins), White (10), Tre (12), Lonnie (2)
    48 minutes of SG: White (20 mins), Lonnie (24), DJ (4)
    48 minutes of SF: Keldon (18), Vassell (30)
    48 minutes of PF: Luka (12), Keldon (12), MLE/Draft (24)
    48 minutes of C: Poetl (26), Luka (14), Eubanks (8)

    IMO, Vassell plays best when he's guarding the 1s and the 2s
    Vassell has gotten better overall on D, and he just needs to be on the floor to have an affect the game on that end. He doesn’t get steals the way that DJ does, he reads passing lanes, where DJ mostly gets poke steals on his man.

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    Why on earth do u think DeMar DeRozan can lead any team to a ring? He wasn't even CLOSE to doing it in his prime
    Very true. If we get any stars on this team it will be a challenge, and like the Big 3, will probably be foreign born to want to stay in SA. I’m fine with rolling with a team approach given the other option of overpaying flawed players.

    Edit: I don’t really consider Demar a star, at least not in the Tony or Manu model.
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    Demar would have to accept a 6-man type role to accentuate his strengths, but he wouldn’t accept that personally or financially.

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    Duncan2k5 done it again and ed over this thread by transforming it into a DeMar thread just because a single guy brought him up

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    Duncan2k5 done it again and ed over this thread by transforming it into a DeMar thread just because a single guy brought him up

    Yeah just that moment I realized, wait, what thread is this again? Oops.

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    The other Luka is a defender...so if we had him, we would keep him in the G-league too?
    It’s obvious you’ve never played this game.

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    The other Luka is a defender...so if we had him, we would keep him in the G-league too?
    the other Luka is actually very good in defense this year. Way better than anyone on his team.

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    Is this guy just too big and quick for the g-league?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mee4...ature=emb_logo

    He should play against people his size.

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    the other Luka is actually very good in defense this year. Way better than anyone on his team.
    You’ve got to be joking. Luka may be improved, or even good, but DJ gonna make All D team this year, and White and Vassell are just a step behind him. All Three are better than Luka on D, and that’s just off the top of my head.

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    I think ut safe to say that if Luka was heading into this years draft, he'd be a top 10 and maybe a top 5 pick.

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    He is shooting overall solid from the floor while scoring a lot which is good but his 3 point % has got to get better. In the NBA the odds of him actually getting to post up players is most likely going to be slim unless he keeps getting a bit stronger and bigger or develop a really strong go to move and a counter for his go to.

    his best weapon on offense against NBA players in my opinion is his quickness and solid handle for his size. If he can’t hit 3 point shots at a decent % NBA players will just sag off him which makes it harder for him to slash to the hoop.

    he has been doing a way better job boxing out and rebounding in traffic since the 1st G-League game this season which is very encouraging. His defense has also gotten better with each game but he still has a way to go to be a solid back line or rim protector player. He definitely (when locked in) is already solid on switching out on wing and guards defensively but he has to remember to not always be so up right when defending on the perimeter.

    it’s a ton to like about his first 4 G-League games so far but it’s only 4 games, his role on offense is way bigger with this team than it will most likely be in the NBA (so can he adjust?) and he still has to get better on defense. I’m excited about his progress and hope it continues

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    I think ut safe to say that if Luka was heading into this years draft, he'd be a top 10 and maybe a top 5 pick.
    You're not wrong here. I'm looking at all the PF/C archetypes close to his size and none of them possess post up moves AND a shooter's touch. It's usually just one or the other and not both.

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    "Everything is mental," Samanic said. "From last year to this year, the thing that's changed is that I matured a little bit and I understand what it takes. This is my second year and I didn't fight for my chance. I was doing something wrong."

    "I was really quiet last year. I guess I was shy and this year, it's something I have to do," Samanic said when asked about being vocal on the floor. "Being a big guy, you see the whole court better than everybody else."

    https://news4sanantonio.com/amp/spor...mpression=true

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    "Everything is mental," Samanic said. "From last year to this year, the thing that's changed is that I matured a little bit and I understand what it takes. This is my second year and I didn't fight for my chance. I was doing something wrong."

    "I was really quiet last year. I guess I was shy and this year, it's something I have to do," Samanic said when asked about being vocal on the floor. "Being a big guy, you see the whole court better than everybody else."

    https://news4sanantonio.com/amp/spor...mpression=true
    Wow, talk about talking the talk... Addresses exactly what his problems are, no if's or but's about it, and so far it looks like he's backing it up on the court. I really like players who have accountability and can be self-critical in order to get better.

    Keep on, Luka...

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    "Everything is mental," Samanic said. "From last year to this year, the thing that's changed is that I matured a little bit and I understand what it takes. This is my second year and I didn't fight for my chance. I was doing something wrong."

    "I was really quiet last year. I guess I was shy and this year, it's something I have to do," Samanic said when asked about being vocal on the floor. "Being a big guy, you see the whole court better than everybody else."

    https://news4sanantonio.com/amp/spor...mpression=true
    I get the impression that Luka is shy and that a lot of his "aloofness" is actually just being insecure and reserved. Maybe some of the pouting too.

    I know a lot of people (myself included) who misinterpret shyness as coldness.

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    He is shooting overall solid from the floor while scoring a lot which is good but his 3 point % has got to get better. In the NBA the odds of him actually getting to post up players is most likely going to be slim unless he keeps getting a bit stronger and bigger or develop a really strong go to move and a counter for his go to.

    his best weapon on offense against NBA players in my opinion is his quickness and solid handle for his size. If he can’t hit 3 point shots at a decent % NBA players will just sag off him which makes it harder for him to slash to the hoop.

    he has been doing a way better job boxing out and rebounding in traffic since the 1st G-League game this season which is very encouraging. His defense has also gotten better with each game but he still has a way to go to be a solid back line or rim protector player. He definitely (when locked in) is already solid on switching out on wing and guards defensively but he has to remember to not always be so up right when defending on the perimeter.

    it’s a ton to like about his first 4 G-League games so far but it’s only 4 games, his role on offense is way bigger with this team than it will most likely be in the NBA (so can he adjust?) and he still has to get better on defense. I’m excited about his progress and hope it continues
    His shooting is the swing skill, if he's a high-volume, high percentage 3pt shooter then the rest of his game works a lot smoother.

    If they put a smaller, quicker defender on him then he could bruise them in the post and get put backs and offensive rebounds. If they play a bigger player on him, then he can take them off the dribble with a solid enough first-step.

    I like his game tbh he has a lot of potential.

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    One thing he does really good is he has insane fast put backs he gives no time to get his shot blocked.

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    You're not wrong here. I'm looking at all the PF/C archetypes close to his size and none of them possess post up moves AND a shooter's touch. It's usually just one or the other and not both.
    And he’s only start to skim the surface. I really hope that he could be a better defender, because that would be his kryptonite, people attacking the middle like Aldridge. He has 6’10.5 wingspan. Certainly he cannot be a better defender than Jakob, can he? But he provides all-around offense, and perfectly fit with the group, stretch 4 who can mix it up and play some postup C. Maybe a small ball C, because other big C will kill him.

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    And he’s only start to skim the surface. I really hope that he could be a better defender, because that would be his kryptonite, people attacking the middle like Aldridge. He has 6’10.5 wingspan. Certainly he cannot be a better defender than Jakob, can he? But he provides all-around offense, and perfectly fit with the group, stretch 4 who can mix it up and play some postup C. Maybe a small ball C, because other big C will kill him.
    He's definitely a four and can probably play some center against second unit assuming he continues to improve his strength and size. I wonder if he can leverage his athleticism to eventually be able to protect the rim with verticality.

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    He's definitely a four and can probably play some center against second unit assuming he continues to improve his strength and size. I wonder if he can leverage his athleticism to eventually be able to protect the rim with verticality.
    Not necessarily a 4 though. Because he’s best when he’s playing C and when not with Kelley. He’s able to dominate the post. But I don’t know if that translate to the big league. I think he’s more a small ball C who can play stretch 4.

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    Samanic has great postup moves. He has great footwork, and those spins are wicked.

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    Luka is talented. The physicality of the big boy league gonna be his biggest challenge

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