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    They get Charlotte tonight which is a key chance at a W. Grizzlies have lost a bunch straight.

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    It would be crazy if we got exactly the #7 pick in this deal.

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    Spurs Fans Make All The Excuses In The World For Teams They Say Have “So Much Talent” … Oops I Meant Wemby Only Fans, Not Spurs Fans

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    They get Charlotte tonight which is a key chance at a W. Grizzlies have lost a bunch straight.
    Either outcome is good for us. Either TOR drops to 7, or we get some breathing room from CHA, who have one less loss than us.

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    The Raptors and Spurs are playing chicken with this pick.
    It either stays with Toronto or we get one of the highest possible picks from it.
    It would be wild to have it convey at 7.

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    Did we decide that the DAL 2030 1st is actually just swap rights? Seems like at the time, everyone thought we were getting an unprotected pick.

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    Did we decide that the DAL 2030 1st is actually just swap rights? Seems like at the time, everyone thought we were getting an unprotected pick.
    I didn’t see anyone say that it was a pick. It was pretty clear that it was unprotected, but a swap.

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    Either outcome is good for us. Either TOR drops to 7, or we get some breathing room from CHA, who have one less loss than us.
    What are we needing breathing room about re Charlotte?

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    What are we needing breathing room about re Charlotte?
    They’re 1/2 game behind us, same wins, one less loss.

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    I didn’t see anyone say that it was a pick. It was pretty clear that it was unprotected, but a swap.
    I never recalled hearing it was a pick swap at the time, was why I asked. Then I was reading about Spurs future picks only recently, and that was the first saw it referenced as a swap.

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    OG Anunoby was never an all star. He’s never scored 20 points per game for a season, even in this gogo offensive era. In years gone by, he might have been considered a better offense, worse defense Bowen. He’s a role player.
    They’ve been losing very close games recently against top opponents with a new roster and some missing important players.
    it’s not absurd to think that with another summer they’ll be better next year.

    It’s just an impression as of now, things go fast in NBA so we’ll see in a month where they’re at …

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    Toronto tips off against a Hornets team now without LaMello, Mark WIlliams, Gordon Hayward, and a traded Rozier. For those wanting a that second pick, this would go a long way to helping them. Charlotte's been horrendous lately.

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    Toronto tips off against a Hornets team now without LaMello, Mark WIlliams, Gordon Hayward, and a traded Rozier. For those wanting a that second pick, this would go a long way to helping them. Charlotte's been horrendous lately.
    brandon miller and miles bridges have been running hot. everybody else... yeesh

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    And... Charlotte comes out scorching hot and up 17-5, like they're all auditioning to get traded out of there asap.

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    I don't know why people thought it a huge tragedy we couldn't get Imanuel Quickley.

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    I don't know why people thought it a huge tragedy we couldn't get Imanuel Quickley.
    one of the few realistic means to upgrade at PG anytime soon. 2024 FA class is uninspiring. for guys under 28yo for instance, you are looking at Markelle Fultz, Monte Morris, Tyus Jones. then it gets really thin

    draft isnt reliable since you dont know where we pick or who is there, plus rookie PGs very rarely hit the ground running

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    Quickley is really more an undersized SG. He can play off-ball because Barnes is the facilitator. Quickley is a decent sparkplug and would be good off the bench, but he's not that exciting.

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    there's really no hope if the Raptors can't even beat the Charlotte Hornets 3rd stringers

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    yak delivering a W with some huge plays late

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    Charlotte outshidded Toronto. Poeltl makes a difference... slightly. Memphis has lost six straight and their mojo may be gone. Maybe.

    They're now tied with 18 wins. Portland is just behind at 15. Brooklyn is hovering above with 20.

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    It would be crazy if we got exactly the #7 pick in this deal.
    It's such a thin line to get TOR to plummet but stay above the top 6. Almost would rather Raps won more for a better guaranteed yet lower value pick like #12 instead of poorer odds that a higher value #7 conveys. 36% is dismal but there is hope that the chips will fall just right if TOR can get tank froze out of the top 6 by other collapsing teams which the landscape is ripe for. In that case push TOR down as hard as you can cause they will wash up right at 7, 8, 9 depending how it all finishes.

    tank a thon rolls where TOR doesn't convey start looking real threadbare lol. Spurs fans are gonna meltdown if this tank season yields Reed Sheppard and nothing else though you'd hope other moves would be made in light of that.

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    It's such a thin line to get TOR to plummet but stay above the top 6. Almost would rather Raps won more for a better guaranteed yet lower value pick like #12 instead of poorer odds that a higher value #7 conveys. 36% is dismal but there is hope that the chips will fall just right if TOR can get tank froze out of the top 6 by other collapsing teams which the landscape is ripe for. In that case push TOR down as hard as you can cause they will wash up right at 7, 8, 9 depending how it all finishes.

    tank a thon rolls where TOR doesn't convey start looking real threadbare lol. Spurs fans are gonna meltdown if this tank season yields Reed Sheppard and nothing else though you'd hope other moves would be made in light of that.
    If Toronto finishes above Memphis in the 7 slot, the pick is about 2/3 chance to go to the Spurs. If somehow they get above Brooklyn, the pick is about 3/4 chance to go. If they get above Atlanta, the pick is about 4/5 chance to convey.

    Right now, the most likely spot the Spurs get the pick is number 8, at 32.9%. If the Spurs do get a second pick, I don't doubt there's a second player who could be useful. Even if there aren't obvious stars in this draft, there are pieces. With pick 8 or 9 you could get a Dalton Knecht, who would be very old as a rookie but is a very dynamic scorer to does a lot of everything and wouldn't be the 'raw materials' Pop was talking about. He'd be more ready to play.

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    If Toronto finishes above Memphis in the 7 slot, the pick is about 2/3 chance to go to the Spurs. If somehow they get above Brooklyn, the pick is about 3/4 chance to go. If they get above Atlanta, the pick is about 4/5 chance to convey.

    Right now, the most likely spot the Spurs get the pick is number 8, at 32.9%. If the Spurs do get a second pick, I don't doubt there's a second player who could be useful. Even if there aren't obvious stars in this draft, there are pieces. With pick 8 or 9 you could get a Dalton Knecht, who would be very old as a rookie but is a very dynamic scorer to does a lot of everything and wouldn't be the 'raw materials' Pop was talking about. He'd be more ready to play.
    alot of these players can easily replace these players on this team.Thats how bad we are.We need raptors pick.This team
    needs talent asap.

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    It's such a thin line to get TOR to plummet but stay above the top 6. Almost would rather Raps won more for a better guaranteed yet lower value pick like #12 instead of poorer odds that a higher value #7 conveys. 36% is dismal but there is hope that the chips will fall just right if TOR can get tank froze out of the top 6 by other collapsing teams which the landscape is ripe for. In that case push TOR down as hard as you can cause they will wash up right at 7, 8, 9 depending how it all finishes.

    tank a thon rolls where TOR doesn't convey start looking real threadbare lol. Spurs fans are gonna meltdown if this tank season yields Reed Sheppard and nothing else though you'd hope other moves would be made in light of that.
    I’ll feel that way in year 3 if it hasn’t conveyed yet, but for now, pulling pretty hard for Memphis to lose and keep Toronto at 7.

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    I’ll feel that way in year 3 if it hasn’t conveyed yet, but for now, pulling pretty hard for Memphis to lose and keep Toronto at 7.
    Agreed. As much as we're white knuckling it playing with fire, it looks like TOR has a good chance of being frozen out of the top 6 worst records and this pick could land right on the #7 miraculously so lose away, Raps.

    Especially as you say the Spurs get 3 swings at this so let's run it risky now in hopes we hit as close to maximum pay dirt since we have a few free tries to go.

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