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    He did shoot 24% on unguarded C&S 3 that is a major oulier. Bad shooting prospects are in the low 30's.

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    now go find buzelis' chart
    From the college line too? This isn’t about tearing one prospect down to elevate another tbh.
    I buy Buzelis’ shot more atm in a structured system, similar to what Castle had access to at UCONN.

    Here it is though:


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    now go find buzelis' chart
    He's good from the left corner which tells you he can get better with reps. It's never a good sign to just be below average from all zones. But being a 40% shot maker on his highest volume shot from the left corner is a positive sign.

    Bruce Bowen made a killing on those and was even good by the end of his career from the 45° 3 pt area.

    I think Buzelis' numbers are a bit deceiving given they range from 20% to 40%. The high end gives you his cieling not the low end giving you his floor imo.
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    I'm out on Castle, but even more out on Buzelis

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    It's funny how Sarr and even Clingan are discussed as if they can develop to become three-point threats, but for other players it's too late. Draft season is all about creating rules and then not applying them equally.

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    It's funny how Sarr and even Clingan are discussed as if they can develop to become three-point threats, but for other players it's too late. Draft season is all about creating rules and then not applying them equally.
    centers get more uncontested looks, so having a slow, uncomfortable release is less of an issue, especially given the naturally high release point of the shot

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    Yup and no one is truly drafting those guys based on realistic expectations they are shooters. Thats not even factored into their worth. Castles largely hinges on it.

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    centers get more uncontested looks, so having a slow, uncomfortable release is less of an issue, especially given the naturally high release point of the shot
    Nah, that's not it.

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    Yup and no one is truly drafting those guys based on realistic expectations they are shooters. Thats not even factored into their worth. Castles largely hinges on it.
    No it doesn't.

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    It very much does.

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    Just have to see how it shakes out! Hopefully he can at least be a Marcus Smart type where he can play point guard enough and defend at a high level and have the occasional 3PT make at 33%+

    Is he Jimmy Butler? Is he Dante Exum or Evan Turner? Hard to tell

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    It definitely does, if he doesn't develop his shot at a respectable level, he can be elite at everything else and it won't matter. Name me one championship level guard that can't shoot on today's NBA.

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    The story is what the is going on with Givony. He used to be highly respected, but I don't trust any ESPN employee whatsoever. What he's been doing is down low gross.
    I think he’s getting pressured to do the hot takes stuff by ESPN. Essentially to be the Woj of the draft. But he’s failing miserably.

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    You either die a hero or you live long enough to be a villain is what happened to Givony. But the gullible people here will eat up anything he s out so…

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    I think this kid has the right makeup for team, he will be a better pro than college athlete.
    Still slinging Rc? Gold in this thread

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    You either die a hero or you live long enough to be a villain is what happened to Givony. But the gullible people here will eat up anything he s out so…
    The same thing happened to both Givony and Zach Lowe. They were knowledgeable basketball guys that ESPN pressured to become hot take guys. Givony went along, and still has his job. Lowe did not, and he’s unemployed.

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    Still slinging Rc? Gold in this thread
    Dude, if you don’t stop that, you’ll go blind.

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    It's only been three games, but I feel confident saying upthread that Castle's worth in the league exists even without a great jumpshot. I think he'll develop one, but even without he has a place in this league. A big, strong, good-defending guard who can distribute the ball and pressure the rim has value.

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    Right now I think his ceiling is high-level starter/elite defender if the 3 ball never comes around... if he can develop a 3pt shot though... the ceiling is All-NBA IMO.

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    Right now I think his ceiling is high-level starter/elite defender if the 3 ball never comes around... if he can develop a 3pt shot though... the ceiling is All-NBA IMO.
    Yup. His handle is tight enough that he can get to the cup without a jump shot. He just moves around a defender, or bumps them out of his way.

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    Right now I think his ceiling is high-level starter/elite defender if the 3 ball never comes around... if he can develop a 3pt shot though... the ceiling is All-NBA IMO.
    Jimmy got all-NBA selections in consecutive seasons while shooting 24% from 3pt.
    I'm not saying he's going to get on Jimmy's level, but if he becomes an elite defender and averages like 18/8 he'll be more valuable than those negative defense 25ppg scorers.

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    Jimmy got all-NBA selections in consecutive seasons while shooting 24% from 3pt.
    I'm not saying he's going to get on Jimmy's level, but if he becomes an elite defender and averages like 18/8 he'll be more valuable than those negative defense 25ppg scorers.
    I don't watch the Rockets at all, and I don't mean to trash the guy, but I assume Jalen Green is one of those players? Watching him against the Spurs, he scored great, but doesn't seem like he was doing much else. I don't remember him grabbing rebounds or passing the ball much. I'd rather a player like Castle if he can average something like 18/8 compared to a guy scoring 25 and doing nothing else.

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    Dude, if you don’t stop that, you’ll go blind.
    Stay in your lane; Rc asked for this and he’s gonna get it! Don’t say dumb and I won’t speak on you in any way.

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    Just so you ex or whatever you call yourself, there’s levels to this. No fluff

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    Shooting 0% on threes, already rattled passing up open 3s even in garbage time ...

    Can only get better from here

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