2025 NBA Offseason Thread

[scott]

It's the Kornet Kontest, look it up.

This might be the only part of Kornet's game I'm familiar with

[baseline bum]

I’ve read so many times that teams hand out deals not necessarily because they’re trying to find the best deal, but because they need a mix of certain level contracts to match salaries in trades (especially when big game hunting). That’s part of the reason you see some ambitious numbers from teams that aren’t compe ive. That’s why I’m not worried about Vassell’s or Johnson’s contract numbers, and certainly not when first handed out. Now we’re getting much closer to go time in terms of being compe ive. We have to be really smart about contract numbers because of the apron. Johnson’s deal will be easily tradeable in a year. We shall see on Vassell, but I’m still a believer in his game as a scaled down third or fourth option now that he’s truly healthy.

$27 million a year for a fourth option who plays no defense is rich as and the Spurs are stuck with him until 2029-30. He makes it really tough to sign Sochan or to spend the MLE when you have to plan for Wemby's extension in 2027, Castle's in 2028, and Harper's in 2029. He's a hugely negative contract they need to rid themselves of this summer, hopefully for Collins and his expiring, assuming he will cost significantly less to re-sign than Jabari Smith just got.

[SpursBills]

Since everyone is gaga over Kornet... can someone sell me on him? What's the appeal here, I did not watch many Celtics games. His RB% and BLK% numbers are considerably worse than Bassey's, for example (but Bassey can't stay healthy and gets lost on both ends of the court at times). Does Kornet demonstrate a lot of on-the court smarts? Is a good screener? Not hating on him... looking for the real scouting report here.

Nope, no scouting here. We're just going for vibes on this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostoncelti...st_moments_of/

[DPG21920]

Because the players we'd like to get rid of don't have much value and any high end starter would cost us at least 2 FRPs?
We have just 1 FRP per draft, it's not like we're still at 10+ tradeable picks.
Not to mention the salary implications.

I named reasonably prices PFs and Cs I'd try and get, anything more is a riskier move.

Salaries would be going out so dont see the issue there (Considering Keldon makes 17M, Barnes 19M and Dev 25M+). I think going all in is pushing for big moves like KD and giving up multiple firsts for that.

Giving up a single first or some seconds along with guys from Dev/Keldon/Barnes/Branham/Blake group is not going all in at all.

[BatManu20]

Surprising. I’m sure either lakers will be all over this.

Breaking: Deandre Ayton is finalizing a contract buyout with the Portland Trail Blazers to become a free agent, sources tell ESPN.

[Degoat]

Did Ayton just become this years big Free agent fish? Lol

[scott]

Nope, no scouting here. We're just going for vibes on this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostoncelti...st_moments_of/

This was awesome thanks for sharing

[mo7888]

Surprising. I’m sure either lakers will be all over this.

Now that's surprising...

[Degoat]

Good for the spurs tbh should take attention away from others chasing ayton

[LeBowen]

This was awesome thanks for sharing

On a more serious note, Kornet's best quality is his IQ.
Great short roll and kickout after offensive rebounds passer.
He's slow, but always seems to know where to be on both ends of the floor.
This season he had 1.6 assists and just 0.4 turnovers.

We need winning role players like him.

[scott]

On a more serious note, Kornet's best quality is his IQ.
Great short roll and kickout after offensive rebounds passer.
He's slow, but always seems to know where to be on both ends of the floor.
This season he had 1.6 assists and just 0.4 turnovers.

We need winning role players like him.

Honestly, I was already sold after seeing how hilarious this guy is from SpursBills' link. No longer need the fit explained.

[Light]

$27 million a year for a fourth option who plays no defense is rich as and the Spurs are stuck with him until 2029-30. He makes it really tough to sign Sochan or to spend the MLE when you have to plan for Wemby's extension in 2027, Castle's in 2028, and Harper's in 2029. He's a hugely negative contract they need to rid themselves of this summer, hopefully for Collins and his expiring, assuming he will cost significantly less to re-sign than Jabari Smith just got.

Stupid front office. They should have known they were going to draft Wemby, Castle, and Harper in the following years. The absolute worst time to overpay someone is when your core three players are on rookie deals.

[baseline bum]

Stupid front office. They should have known they were going to draft Wemby, Castle, and Harper in the following years. The absolute worst time to overpay someone is when your core three players are on rookie deals.

They signed him to that deal months after drafting Wemby. Five years was pretty stupid for a China doll who doesn't play defense and the last two years of his deal Wemby is no longer on his rookie deal.

[MannyIsGod]

So much complaining about the Vassell contract when it's the centerpiece in any trade for a star. It's not a contract that hurts the spurs at all right now.

[scottspurs]

Ayton smells like another gift to the lakers from the league

[vy65]

Nope, no scouting here. We're just going for vibes on this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostoncelti...st_moments_of/

“I haven’t seen a white kill jazz like that since Ryan Reynolds in La La Land.”

Brian, pay this man his money for s sake.

[TimmyBuckets]

Vassell isn't overpaid. Also he's our only SG, aside from combo guards. Also he's one of our best shooters. People want him gone and want to start Carter Bryant as a rookie lmao. Vassell isn't going anywhere.

[LeBowen]

Ayton smells like another gift to the lakers from the league

If he goes there they'll want him gone within a month.

[Light]

They signed him to that deal months after drafting Wemby. Five years was pretty stupid for a China doll who doesn't play defense and the last two years of his deal Wemby is no longer on his rookie deal.

So the smart move would've been to make sure their best non-Wemby player was off the books when it came time to extend Wemby?

[baseline bum]

Vassell isn't overpaid. Also he's our only SG, aside from combo guards. Also he's one of our best shooters. People want him gone and want to start Carter Bryant as a rookie lmao. Vassell isn't going anywhere.

Barnes, Paul, Mamu, and Champ were better three point shooters last season. Vassell is a league average three point shooter and that's supposed to be the best part of his game. No one wants to start Carter Bryant. I want him gone for a better roster fit in Collins and then Barnes can start at the SF.

[cd98]

Vassell’s contract is not an issue. It was done knowing the salary cap would grow. It will be a reasonable deal in the future, especially for a young guy not in his prime that is above the league average 3 point percentage and the ability to be a decent defender.

[baseline bum]

So the smart move would've been to make sure their best non-Wemby player was off the books when it came time to extend Wemby?

At least you concede they overpaid him

[baseline bum]

Vassell’s contract is not an issue. It was done knowing the salary cap would grow. It will be a reasonable deal in the future, especially for a young guy not in his prime that is above the league average 3 point percentage and the ability to be a decent defender.

Vassell is a whole 0.8% above league average shooting the three and that defensive potential talk is kind of ridiculous five years in when he has been nothing but a traffic cone defensively.

[cd98]

Vassell is a whole 0.8% above league average shooting the three and that defensive potential talk is kind of ridiculous five years in when he has been nothing but a traffic cone defensively.

You don’t have to like him. The Spurs do. He is probably in the starting line up when the season begins bc he’s better than the other three point shooters on the team. If he is traded, it needs to be for a shooter. I think he has value to a lot of teams in the league. They are only trading him for a star type player, in my opinion. He’s still not in his prime. It’ll be interesting to see what he looks like with a full offseason to work on his game.

[Light]

At least you concede they overpaid him

I'm indifferent, tbh. Whether it was an overpay or not, it hasn't prevented the team from acquiring talent and he's a tradeable asset for retaining talent.