Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Hoops Czar]

Leonard would lose all endorsements also

Nooooooo... Not thos unfunny, cringeworthy HEB commercial endorsements. How will Kawhi survive?

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No, I think most fans want Kawhi to stay. And nobody will miss Pop and his personal secretary RC Buford when they're gone, at least I won't. They're actually part of the problem, not the answer to a solution.

Lol. You don't know if you think PATFO won't be missed.

[Spurs9]

Patty's deal, when you look at it in terms of percentage of the cap, it's fine. It's something like 11.5% of the cap for each of the remaining years of his deal. Gasol's is pretty much a year year deal and then can be stretched and waived.

At least we aren't paying Steven Adams 27mil

[Hoops Czar]

Lol. You don't know if you think PATFO won't be missed.

You're still stuck in 2005.

[K...]

You're still stuck in 2005.

The worst years of pafto were 2009-2012. They've been good to legendary since that span. The things that ed them were outside their contol, durant, cp3, the salary cap swings, Leonard being a huge

[RD2191]

That would be an awful trade. Nurkic cannot be the centerpiece of an offense.

Yeah, but you get rid of LMA so that's a win already.

[rasuo214]

Before last season started there were rumors that Kawhi wasn't happy with the Spurs off-season moves + the reports of not wanting to offer the supermax (I remember seeing it even before the season started) and finally the issues with his injury and the reluctance to allow him to get a personal 2nd opinion. Fast forward to now and the reports have been that Kawhi still respects Pop but has issues with the FO. Pop is only going to be around a few more seasons so he can't promise to be around another 6 years.

[FlAVaK]

the irony

Well played sir

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I've reached the the Lakers and their scrubs stage.

Welcome aboard.

[024]

Ingram second year stats: 16.1ppg, 5.3reb, 3.9ast. 47% and 39% from 3.
Leonard second year stats: 11.9ppg, 6.0reb, 1.6ast, 49% and 37% from 3.

Ingram is already an established defender and I see him as one of the better wing defenders in the league shortly. He will never be Leonard good on defense, as he is probably the best ever. But to say he isn't going to develope into a good player is naive.

Kuzma ceiling is a 6 man, scoring combo forward, taking backup forward off the dribble. Spark plug type of thing.

As for Lonzo, I think he has future potential. Regardless, Spurs could flip him for something they prefer.

The question to ask is if the Spurs think whoever they are getting in the trade for Leonard will make a 9 man rotation in the playoffs, and will any of them become an allstar.

Ingram's shot is slow and low. He's supposedly working on it but it's still kind of bad. Maybe Chip can accelerate that progress but no guarantees. Not to mention his 65% average free throw rate. Not exactly good indicators of all-star potential.

Why couldn't the Lakers have drafted better? Missed out on Brown and Tatum by one pick b2b years. Kuzma is okay but don't think him or Ingram are good centerpieces for a top 5 player and 2x DPOY. Spurs don't have a lot of leverage but if they can squeeze out Brown + King's pick + filler, I would be way happier with that. If the Spurs can get Tatum, it'll be a miracle.

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I think it'll end up being a Lakers trade due to outside interference..I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I generally mock them, but I'm buying it here


Personally, my thoughts on the matter change every day, but right now I'd rather ruin the Lakers plans and get a tier deal in return I hope the Spurs hold out until LeBron and George sign there, at least..there's no alternative to Kawhi for them, they can take a broken Cousins..

This is precisely how I feel about this whole gotdamn mess. Thanks Kawhi, you .

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I don't think anyone's "sources" know anything. So far today, we've heard that the Lakers offered Ingram, Kuzma and picks. Then later, that the Lakers have not at all offered Ingram. We heard that Kawhi did not want to go with LeBron to the Lakers, and then later that Kawhi reached out to LeBron to say how much he wanted to play with him. Also we heard that Boston was in serious talks with the Spurs. Then that they hadn't offered anything. Then that the Spurs were targeting Tatum. Then Philly was in the mix. Now, Chris Sheridan says the Heat could be contenders for Kawhi.

I've concluded that no one knows anything.

Well, we know Barry Mc iner is spot on about Bron being thicc in Kawhi's eyes, amirite?

[Uriel]

The situation is baffling. It's hard for me to imagine what happened between the Spurs and Kawhi that could have caused him to be "irate" and wanting to never step foot in the Spurs' locker room again. To cause such a rift, it has to be something much more than the Spurs questioning his injury, Parker's comment (which wasn't a slight to Kawhi) or Pop using the word 'group.' So maybe something happened that has not been reported.

Or, maybe it's just that Kawhi is so mentally fragile that he's been heavily manipulated by his handlers into thinking he should be irate and want out.

I always thought Kawhi was a guy who just wanted to play basketball. I never thought he'd end up being a primadonna or a whiner. And now, somehow (if you believe all media reports), he's both.

One thing about Kawhi though is that he has never demonstrated any leadership skills in San Antonio. Duncan was a leader. Kawhi is not. So maybe he does really just need to be somewhere else where he can be #2 to someone like LeBron, and just play basketball. Maybe he can't handle being the face of a franchise.

The thing that I'm really questioning today is... Stephen A Smith says Pop-Kawhi met again last night. If Kawhi is dead-set on never suiting up for the Spurs again. What was the point? Why did he meet with Pop again? Like, I said.. it's just a baffling situation. I've never seen/heard anything like it.

It started off with the Spurs not offering the supermax and his group leaking that he wanted out as a power move to extract that concession. Then things blew up in the media and the whole situation got out of control.

[Keepin' it real]

He's probably talking about Fornite

So the next two weeks will be crazy?

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Kawhi is a top 3 player and every team that doesn't come in with their best offer will regret it.

He's that damn great and the Spurs will be fools to trade him.

Even if the chance to repair things is 0.001%, that gives them a better chance to win the le in the next 10 years than any trade

I think you might be right. But he burned his bridge as far as I'm concerned. Making Pop chase him to San Diego after losing his wife but a month and a half earlier AFTER the he pulled this season AND then add in the trashing he's doing to the Spurs as a franchise with all his BS. He can GTFOH as far as I am concerned.

[objective]

It started off with the Spurs not offering the supermax and his group leaking that he wanted out as a power move to extract that concession. Then things blew up in the media and the whole situation got out of control.

The mistake the Spurs made in their talks and leaks to the media was believing they were dealing with rational actors.

But Kawhi and his sphere are a failed state.

Completely irrational, unpredictable, and heavily influenced/under the control of outside hostile aggressors.

[daslicer]

The mistake the Spurs made in their talks and leaks to the media was believing they were dealing with rational actors.

But Kawhi and his sphere are a failed state.

Completely irrational, unpredictable, and heavily influenced/under the control of outside hostile aggressors.

Agreed they got cucked by Kawhi's uncle. Spurs brought a knife to a gun fight when dealing with Uncle Dennis.

[cd021]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/k...first-rounder/

Almost certainly posted but i'm not about to skim through the last 20 ing pages to direct quote someone.

Covington, Saric, Miami 2021 first-rounder, Parsekniks and Justin Anderson

for

Kawhi

might be the most realistic offer from Philly to the Spurs.

[cd021]

Trade Aldridge back to Portland for Jusuf Nurkic

Nurkic is a bit of a diva, probably more than Aldridge and not nearly as good.

[objective]

I think you might be right. But he burned his bridge as far as I'm concerned. Making Pop chase him to San Diego after losing his wife but a month and a half earlier AFTER the he pulled this season AND then add in the trashing he's doing to the Spurs as a franchise with all his BS. He can GTFOH as far as I am concerned.

I'm happy if he stays a Spur

I'm happy if he gets told to go to and stay home all year.

But if they fold like cowards and deal him for crap, then screw the Spurs

[MannyIsGod]

Any Philly trade without Fultz is just ridiculous, IMO. Any Lakers Trade without Ingram, Kuzma, and whatever they flip Ball for is ridiculous. An Boston offer without Tatum is ridiculous.

At this point, the Spurs probably ARE better off holding on to him till the deadline to see if any progress can be made if those offers aren't even at that level. I'm not a fan of letting him walk for nothing by any means, but I also don't think any offer not up to at least THOSE levels is worth doing it now.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm happy if he stays a Spur

I'm happy if he gets told to go to and stay home all year.

But if they fold like cowards and deal him for crap, then screw the Spurs

Everytime I see a Spurs fan post like "screw the Spurs" because they might make a bad trade I am reminded of how much I think this fan base is so ing spoiled. Are none of you fans of another franchise who has done stupid at times? Do you really just give up on those teams at that junction?

[daslicer]

Any Philly trade without Fultz is just ridiculous, IMO. Any Lakers Trade without Ingram, Kuzma, and whatever they flip Ball for is ridiculous. An Boston offer without Tatum is ridiculous.

At this point, the Spurs probably ARE better off holding on to him till the deadline to see if any progress can be made if those offers aren't even at that level. I'm not a fan of letting him walk for nothing by any means, but I also don't think any offer not up to at least THOSE levels is worth doing it now.

I believe if Kawhi can play 10-20 games at a high level to start off the season then you will get a lot of better offers especially from Boston and other teams.

[Down Under]

He'll sign the supermax. It's only fitting Dennis would end it this way.

[daslicer]

Everytime I see a Spurs fan post like "screw the Spurs" because they might make a bad trade I am reminded of how much I think this fan base is so ing spoiled. Are none of you fans of another franchise who has done stupid at times? Do you really just give up on those teams at that junction?

Sorry dude getting cucked by the Lakers would be too painful for me to take. I have never respected organizations like the Grizzlies,Magic, and even the Bucks who have handed their superstars to the Lakers. Granted the Bucks were way before my time with the Kareem trade but looking at it historically what a rip off. I'm all for the Spurs trading Kawhi just not to the Lakers.

I also root for the Hornets since they are my home team. They have done a lot of stupid ass moves for years but even MJ would never allow a superstar to on them the way Kawhi has done the Spurs.