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    spur fan nothing better to do today

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    WTF happened in between the 23 pages of this thread that it started with the Spurs talks for AK ended to there being optimism that the Spurs are going to do a S&T with Minny for him? Serious question.
    Yeah, it's really a pipe dream for many Spurs fans at this point, tbh. 99% chance this is dead in the water and he's going elsewhere.

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    The hope mostly surrounds the fact that Minnesota had originally called a press conference for 9 AM to announce the signing of Kevin Martin. However, they've delayed that press conference while they work on roster maneuvering. Perhaps the Spurs landing AK47 takes place somewhere within that maneuvering.

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    I would say more then 1% chance

    longer this draws out to me there is more chance it happening
    until someone holds a press confernce then things change

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    WTF happened in between the 23 pages of this thread that it started with the Spurs talks for AK ended to there being optimism that the Spurs are going to do a S&T with Minny for him? Serious question.
    Minnesota didn't renounce AK yet. They had a presser scheduled for 9 AM to announce the Martin signing that has not yet happened, meaning things are still being worked.

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    Kind of feels like the Scola situation from last season. Small chance of happening but still hard not to hold your breathe in this situation.

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    The hope mostly surrounds the fact that Minnesota had originally called a press conference for 9 AM to announce the signing of Kevin Martin. However, they've delayed that press conference while they work on roster maneuvering. Perhaps the Spurs landing AK47 takes place somewhere within that maneuvering.

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    SA could get creative in other ways - add another year to Manu's deal but drop the avg (or at least next years) salary with the tacit understanding that Manu can retire / be waived after the second year & keep the money. The idea that SA is preserving future capspace is a little silly - we've seen how little max capspace has helped this team in the past. Honestly same could be done w/ Pendergrast too - drop the yearly but add a third year to the deal to squeeze out enough capspace. If they need to salary dump Bonner, DeColo or Mills Lindsey in Utah and Ferry in ATL would probably be able to help them out ( , look what Utah just did for Golden State)

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    ^Exactly, no point in trying to lure FAs that aren't going to come when our team is . The time is NOW.

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    Minny needs to set AK free this is crummy of them. Can they just S&T to us for a draft pick?

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    SA could get creative in other ways - add another year to Manu's deal but drop the avg (or at least next years) salary with the tacit understanding that Manu can retire / be waived after the second year & keep the money. The idea that SA is preserving future capspace is a little silly - we've seen how little max capspace has helped this team in the past. Honestly same could be done w/ Pendergrast too - drop the yearly but add a third year to the deal to squeeze out enough capspace. If they need to salary dump Bonner, DeColo or Mills Lindsey in Utah and Ferry in ATL would probably be able to help them out ( , look what Utah just did for Golden State)
    Not sure this is possible.

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    Minny needs to set AK free this is crummy of them. Can they just S&T to us for a draft pick?
    They have to take salaries.

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    Minny needs to set AK free this is crummy of them. Can they just S&T to us for a draft pick?
    They can, but the Spurs can't make that deal unless they're under the cap by enough to absorb AK's salary, or they send out enough salary to meet the CBA's salary match requirements.

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    SA could get creative in other ways - add another year to Manu's deal but drop the avg (or at least next years) salary with the tacit understanding that Manu can retire / be waived after the second year & keep the money.
    Could really be why they are waiting to announce anything. Figuring out the right equation of (money vs. length) contracts with B, P, M and T to give them enough space this year to fit AK in.

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    They can, but the Spurs can't make that deal unless they're under the cap by enough to absorb AK's salary, or they send out enough salary to meet the CBA's salary match requirements.
    By most accounts Minny is not wanting to take back any salary so we're looking at the first option. Amnestying/Trading Bonner and trading NDC to a willing team gets us up to $7.8M we can offer as a first year salary. Then sign Belinelli and Pendergraph with the MLE.

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    seriously, its getting to be really eerie that we haven't announced any signings yet

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    By most accounts Minny is not wanting to take back any salary so we're looking at the first option. Amnestying/Trading Bonner and trading NDC to a willing team gets us up to $7.8M we can offer as a first year salary. Then sign Belinelli and Pendergraph with the MLE.
    No MLE if you've got capspace. If the Spurs use capspace to land AK, then they could sign Belinelli with the room exception, but Pendergraph could only be brought in on a league min deal.

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    Not sure this is possible.
    Or they can simply pay him for the third year while he is permanently on the inactive list.

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    Could really be why they are waiting to announce anything. Figuring out the right equation of (money vs. length) contracts with B, P, M and T to give them enough space this year to fit AK in.
    Is this an NBA roster or an algebra problem?

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    Could really be why they are waiting to announce anything. Figuring out the right equation of (money vs. length) contracts with B, P, M and T to give them enough space this year to fit AK in.
    Plausible. Manu got his big offer to confirm he was still highly valued, now we can approach him with how the $14 million commitment and structure affects immediate roster options.

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    seriously, its getting to be really eerie that we haven't announced any signings yet
    Not really, it is better with all the unsettled situations (AK, Neal, Bonner, 8 guards) to know the Spurs are still working out the best options.

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    Not really, it is better with all the unsettled situations (AK, Neal, Bonner, 8 guards) to know the Spurs are still working out the best options.
    i know. meant it in a good way. its unusual to delay it this much, so somethings GOTTA be cooking. where there's smoke theres fire, etc. etc.

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    from one of the Wolves beat writers:

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/214993291.html

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    Is this an NBA roster or an algebra problem?
    It's all algebra if you look at it the right way.

    Example:

    Spurs (S) - RJ (HWSNBN) = X

    Find for X becomes (S) + (HWSNBN) = playoff team - suckass negative stats player (HWSNBN) = Contenders

    Simple math,

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