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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    It's quite nice of you to be over generous in your comments during the holiday season.
    Look back at the bigger items from the past few years (DeRozan deal, Mills, Beli, etc..) and SA fans were mostly pretty spot on big picture with what those moves meant and the issues that could arise due to the moves.

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    The FO is so risk averse, it is embarrassing. But they never seem to consider the risk of playing it so safe that they are destroying the team. Sadly, this team hasn’t hit rock bottom yet. It’s coming.

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    This guy is doubling down.

    objective, FkLA, timtonymanu, do you guys agree that Belinelli was a fine signing?
    Of course not, it was a terrible signing.
    Thanks for the confirmation

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    Never had issues with the signing and still dont. He was signed to play alongside Leonard in bursts and not with DD. And Pop is playing him for too many minutes.

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    ^Nah. Seemed pretty obvious from the beginning that Pop would overplay him.

    If the Spurs sign you twice, Pop likes you.

    If Pop likes you, he will overplay you.

    What happened next?...Yeah.

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    Welp for sure Lonnie walker aint getting any PT.
    Prophetic

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    It made zero ing sense with Wombat already on the roster, them having Forbes in their long term plans, letting Fathead go, dangling Green in trade talks for years (and ultimately giving him away), and their plans to stagger White/IB's minutes.

    Who the told them a bunch of 3 and no D guys were going to lead this team somewhere other than rock bottom?

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    Who the told them a bunch of 3 and no D guys were going to lead this team somewhere other than rock bottom?
    We know now it wasn't analytics.

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    I said it before.This was a dumb move.

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    There were a lot of people here who were upset when PATFO let Beli "get away" the first time. Every time he had a good game they were on the bandwagon. And they were happy when he got brought back. The difference is, even most of them have figured it out quicker than Pop.

    I want the POS gone. I would say put Keldon on a full contract, but he's probably better off staying a full year in Austin. So waive Beli and sign a G-League player to a min contract. Whatever. I'm sick of watching the bas .
    Every time he checks in I get physically ill. last night was the first time I literally stoped watching a spurs game out of just pure disgust.
    Watching him play is taking time off my life. This mother er is legitimately bad for my health.

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    We know now it wasn't analytics.
    Analytics? My Patty made a gazillion shots and gave gazillion percent effort out there and some stinkin' metric said he hurt the team. Pshhh.

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    I just saw an article about Brogdon going to play for the Pacers. They quoted this from him: "I would’ve loved to play for this team, if they had wanted me," Brogdon told reporters before the Pacers' eventual 117-89 loss. "If they had valued me the way the Pacers value me. That’s all I gotta say."


    I'm thinking we hear the same sort of thing from Lonnie. But not even over money. Over not getting on the damn court, while Beli closes games.

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    I just knew from years of pop favoring his scrubs over young talented players that Lonnie was gonna see no time. "corporate knowledge">> youth, athleticism, defense, ceilingless talent

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    Pop is great at Xs and O's.

    Great at people skills. Great motivator.

    But he has a bad eye for talent. And has a bad grasp on lineups/rotations ( has for years).

    Overrated front office overall. Then again Pop makes the final call with every move, so that speaks volumes.

    I love Pop as a person, and respect him but he is not a top coach in the NBA when it comes to evaluating talent and optimizing lineups/rotations.

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    It made zero ing sense with Wombat already on the roster, them having Forbes in their long term plans, letting Fathead go, dangling Green in trade talks for years (and ultimately giving him away), and their plans to stagger White/IB's minutes.

    Who the told them a bunch of 3 and no D guys were going to lead this team somewhere other than rock bottom?
    I wrote a long post about the that off season. Spurs needed shooters and still had Leonard. They chose Bertans and Beli. They needed shooters and they were the cheapest option to go for. It made sense. Then they traded two defenders for DD. Balance now was ed.

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    When will people learn that Marco is a fake sharpshooter?

    He just is and has been overrated. If anyone thought they were getting a sharpshooter as justification for his deal, they thought wrong. Forget about his terrible, team killing defense for a second. And forget his offense breaking contested bricks with 18 seconds on the shot clock.

    He's just not a great shooter. He shouldn't be considered a great shooter. Good shooter? Okay. Above average shooter? Sure. But great? It's all bogus reputation. Maybe it's because he's a white foreigner, maybe because he scored 40+ in his first summer league game, whatever the reason, he's not a sharpshooter. He's not Korver, he's not Re , he's not Bertans, etc etc etc. He's not even as good as McDermott.

    He's had 2 great shooting seasons in a long ass career, the last one in 13-14 for the Spurs and maybe people are having that cloud their minds (they also forget his terrible defense resulting in him getting benched in the playoffs in what might have been Pop's last soundly coached year).

    Since then, he's only finished in the top 50 in % among qualified players once. 14/15 34th. 15/16 101st. 16/17 75th. 17/18 65th. 18/19 51sst.

    Not even including tonight's game (0-4), he's 92nd of qualified players this season. Probably falls out of the top 100 after tonight.

    And it's not just a slump. He has a lower career 3pt% than Roger Mason.

    He has two + .400% 3pt shooting seasons in 13 seasons. That's the same as Norman Powell or TJ Warren in half the time. Less than Tony Snell for instance.

    He's not even in the top 50 of all active qualified players in career 3pt%.

    Matisse Thybulle is qualified and 5th in the NBA at 46.3% (67 attempts in 30 games). And he's a guy who people have sworn couldn't shoot! And he plays possession winning defense!

    No doubt in my mind that Lonnie can do better. And that's ignoring all the other things Lonnie brings.

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    The most annoying Spur of this decade, easily.

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