Official 2020 Draft Day Thread (Begins at 7PM CST)

[YoungbuckMurray]

Best available heading into the second round: Theo Maledon, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry and Nico Mannion

who’s your top 3 preference for Spurs?

[objective]

Somebody earlier in the thread said Presti was in Minnesota. Maybe he got confused, I never heard of Presti leaving OKC, tbh. Anyways, whoever is picking for the Wolves, he's making a of a job.

No, I praised that Presti traded up to get Poku

You must have not seen the news when you posted and and confused that MIN was taking him

[Chinook]

Yea. So they suck.

We don't really disagree. I just think they could suck a lot more than they do. Like had they just waived LMA to save money or whatever, they'd be a much worse front office. That's just dumb. That they in general want to run it back and not make huge win-now moves also isn't what makes them bad. I just think they need to strike a better balance of competing and rebuilding than they're doing now.

But things like the Carroll signing are objectively horrible. Gasol and Mills were defensible if not even fine outside of the dumb structuring of Gasol's deal. But how can you sign a guy the coach hates when your coach runs your front office? Doesn't make any sense. And I'll never get over wasting the 2015 first on Miluntinov. It was a bad pick, but it was also such an obviously ty thought process that bore no fruit anyway, and the Spurs not having a viable developmental big bit them in the ass for multiple years (basically leading to the Gasol signings and the prioritizing of Poeltl in the Leonard deal).

Honestly, outside of those two things and the causal chains they started, I've been much more frustrated with Pop than I am with RC/Wright. His ty coaching sank the Spurs last year.

[DAF86]

No, I praised that Presti traded up to get Poku

You must have not seen the news when you posted and and confused that MIN was taking him

So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

[BackHome]

LMA and DEROZZ going to be playing Hero ball cause they want to get the out of dodge and get that new contract

[Kurik]

So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

Pretty sure OKC did.

[objective]

So, who ended up with Poku? Wolves or OKC? I'm lost.

OKC traded with MIN to get Poku

I posted after WOJ had posted it

Rubio was involved in the deal, and that's why I praised Presti for sending his over-30 vets out to get picks and take a swing on high risk players

[ZeusWillJudge]

Pretty sure OKC did.

Yep. After-market. Thunder have all kinds of trade bait.

[DAF86]

OKC traded with MIN to get Poku

I posted after WOJ had posted it

Rubio was involved in the deal, and that's why I praised Presti for sending his over-30 vets out to get picks and take a swing on high risk players

ing ESPN didn't anounce that trade. I just saw Poku with a Wolves hat.

Presti

[DPG21920]

We don't really disagree. I just think they could suck a lot more than they do. Like had they just waived LMA to save money or whatever, they'd be a much worse front office. That's just dumb. That they in general want to run it back and not make huge win-now moves also isn't what makes them bad. I just think they need to strike a better balance of competing and rebuilding than they're doing now.

But things like the Carroll signing are objectively horrible. Gasol and Mills were defensible if not even fine outside of the dumb structuring of Gasol's deal. But how can you sign a guy the coach hates when your coach runs your front office? Doesn't make any sense. And I'll never get over wasting the 2015 first on Miluntinov. It was a bad pick, but it was also such an obviously ty thought process that bore no fruit anyway, and the Spurs not having a viable developmental big bit them in the ass for multiple years (basically leading to the Gasol signings and the prioritizing of Poeltl in the Leonard deal).

Honestly, outside of those two things and the causal chains they started, I've been much more frustrated with Pop than I am with RC/Wright. His ty coaching sank the Spurs last year.

I’m just comparing them to the division and conference. They draft well but mostly they’ve done nothing. You don’t get credit for that imo. They are paralyzed and as you said coaching sucks.

This is what bothers me:

SA has been lapped.

DAL is better & brighter future
MEM is better & brighter future
NO is better & brighter future
Okc is better & brighter future
Suns are better & brighter future
Denver is better & brighter future

They cannot “do nothing” themselves into a better future.

It’s a results business. If not making mistakes was the right decision and got you ahead? Great. I would be singing their praises.

But they are way behind. Way. Behind. And it’s getting worse. So that plan is unjustifiable.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

[timvp]

Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

[YoungbuckMurray]

Seth curry going back to philly. There goes mills to philly option. Ugh running it back

[crc21209]

:smh

[Degoat]

Bet 76ers got Seth curry for him, someone similar to patty

[Chinook]

I agree long term they are probably only going to keep two. I strongly disagree with moving one in order to help two career losers like LMA and DDR, continue to lose and then leave next year.

There is no player in the nba you are going to trade who is good enough right now to "help" DDR and LMA, while also being better than murray, while also being as young or younger than murray, while also being on a deal that keeps him here at least 2 years or you know you can resign him.

The fact that it was phrased as helping two veterans players who are on one year deals, one who outright said he wants to end his career somewhere else and the other who you could not come to turns on a long term contract with is frightening.

I mean, it's not that hard to be better than Murray, and I don't really care if they're younger. The Spurs would do well to not get out of DJM's deal if they don't think he's going to a top-2 or -3 player in their coffers (right now, I have him at at best fourth behind White, Johnson and Vassell and personally behind Walker Poeltl and probably 41). Protecting that young core is the first priority. The second priority can easily be to be the best team the Spurs can be this year. That's in some way for the sake of Pop and the vets. But it's also for the sake of the team's culture and the young players growing up in it. Just as Miami didn't tank when they rebuild, so won't the Spurs.

I'm not down for making MKE- or even Portland-level trades. But you can argue it intersects the Spurs' goals of rebuilding and competing by moving Murray for a better-fitting piece that also lets them shed DJM's salary going forward.

[crc21209]

Well this sucks

[NASpurs]

Richardson going from 76’ers to Mavs

One more year of Fatty Mills, greaaat...

[YoungbuckMurray]

Bet 76ers got Seth curry for him, someone similar to patty

Yep that’s exactly what I happened

[phxspurfan]

One more year of Fatty Mills, greaaat...

you'll go to the jersey retirement

[timvp]

Maledon off the board

[NASpurs]

you'll go to the jersey retirement

To cough on his face probably.

[objective]

If you're going to compare the Spurs free agency and trades to the rest of the West, then yeah, they might not look great

Futures this, future that

But if you look ahead while you're behind the wheel, you can see the rearview mirror. It makes you SAFE! Maybe we all need to look behind us to the past instead of the future.

So how come nobody ever compares the years 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2014 to the rest of the West?

Makes you think, doesn't it?

*sniffs loudly*

[Degoat]

I get 76ers need shooting but that’s all they got for Josh Richardson, that’s crazy

[ElNono]

Best available heading into the second round: Theo Maledon, Isaiah Joe, Robert Woodard II, Grant Riller, Xavier Tillman, Killian Tillie, Tyrell Terry and Nico Mannion

I have my "Golden Shrine Landscaping of Theo Maledon" thread ready, tbh...

EDIT:

Maledon off the board

damn it