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    Ayton playing w Luka would be pretty funny tbh. I hope it happens.

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    You don’t have to like him. The Spurs do. He is probably in the starting line up when the season begins bc he’s better than the other three point shooters on the team. If he is traded, it needs to be for a shooter. I think he has value to a lot of teams in the league. They are only trading him for a star type player, in my opinion. He’s still not in his prime. It’ll be interesting to see what he looks like with a full offseason to work on his game.
    He just completed his age 24 season man, I think this is his prime. He's not some 21 year old with untapped potential.

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    There's really no point in arguing about Vassell. There's no player worth packaging him for. Collins isn't that guy. If there is, Spurs would.

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    There's really no point in arguing about Vassell. There's no player worth packaging him for. Collins isn't that guy. If there is, Spurs would.
    Collins is worth it just to get out of Vassell's contract.

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    It may be just recency bias (aka Playoffs), but it sure does look like the value of undersized, suspect defending guards is at an all-time low.
    It makes sense why Garland is still in Cleveland and why the Spurs weren't interested really in Dillingham last draft (or am I giving them too much credit for reading the tea leaves)?

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    Collins is worth it just to get out of Vassell's contract.
    would you amensty vassell if that was an option?

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    Hey spurraider21 can you tell that guy in the other thread Ayton is going to the Lakers

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    Minix and Ingram are now restricted FAs....i wonder how are they developing so far? and if the FO thinks they can be rotational pieces long term

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    would you amensty vassell if that was an option?
    Not today, as I'd strongly prefer trading him for someone who fits the team's needs and I don't think it could be sold to the cash considerations ownership until the last minute when absolutely needed (e.g. when Castle's extension starts being paid in 2028). I would very much like him off the roster though to clear playing time for Harper and Champagnie in the backcourt as well as to get Castle some minutes at the three.

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    Hey spurraider21 can you tell that guy in the other thread Ayton is going to the Lakers

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    Lebron running back to AD would be hilarious tbh


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    He just completed his age 24 season man, I think this is his prime. He's not some 21 year old with untapped potential.
    Player prime is 27 to 31. Players a continue to get better and he’s been on some awful teams early and last offseason he was recovering from surgery. So let’s see how he does but he’s the best catch and shoot player on the Spurs and a better shooter than Castle and probably Harper. Spurs seem to like him so I wouldn’t expect a trade unless it’s for a high quality player.

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    Happy Free Agency Day. 2021 was the most active FA period I can remember. We signed Zach Collins and S&T'd for Doug McDermott in the first week of free agency. Will this year be as exciting? Stay tuned!

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    Honestly Lebron for Gafford + PJ + Klay would make both teams better.

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    We got top 8 protection on the Demar S&T from Chicago... I'd be willing to do lotto protected ATL27 or SAS29 in a S&T for Santi, personally. Don't know it would require it, but I'd be willing to go that high. I'm also a Santi-stan, so my words should be taken with a grain of salt for sure
    The problem with sending out future picks, which the Spurs don’t intend to do imo, would be that these protections would have to run for a few years, like for the Derozan pick. Say 2027 lottery protected 1st, then 2028 top 10 protected, then 2029 top 8 protected. With Spurs only having a single pick per year going forward such a deal would lock them up from the ability to do a big trade if someone like Giannis becomes available.

    If they have any plans to go for a big fish, or just to preserve flexibility, these types of deals wouldn’t be ideal at all because of the Stepien rule.

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    DeAndre seems Lakers bound - he's a good lob target, would have a starting spot, is young enough to play with Luka, and would be hilarious as a pairing given the draft history with the Suns picking him over Luka.

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    Lakers are going to be must-watch. That team is a mess. Sure, they need an Ayton, but they're going to be destroyed by teams on defense. It's going to be carnage.

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    f u c k the lakers

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    The problem with sending out future picks, which the Spurs don’t intend to do imo, would be that these protections would have to run for a few years, like for the Derozan pick. Say 2027 lottery protected 1st, then 2028 top 10 protected, then 2029 top 8 protected. With Spurs only having a single pick per year going forward such a deal would lock them up from the ability to do a big trade if someone like Giannis becomes available.

    If they have any plans to go for a big fish, or just to preserve flexibility, these types of deals wouldn’t be ideal at all because of the Stepien rule.
    They don’t *have* to. The Spurs could send out a pick with the protection backup to multiple seconds after only 1 year.

    Whether or not that would get the deal done is another matter, but that’s all I’d be willing to do. I wouldn’t send out any picks that have protection backups that tie us up via Stepien for multiple years.

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    Vassell's was five years, $146 million so quite a bit more than Smith's. Also under a lower cap than what Smith got his under.

    guy like Vassel making 146 milly screams at how badly these chumps are overpaid. Same with Keldon. But thats what happens when you are talent devoid and somebody has to make the money. This is why agents are now trying to stear players in draft. Go to cap space teams that suck.

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    So are we saying that the consensus is a Luke Cornet signing will be the best likely outcome for the post-draft offseason?

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    So are we saying that the consensus is a Luke Cornet signing will be the best likely outcome for the post-draft offseason?
    There is no consensus here, we’re just a bunch of random people / bots throwing ideas against the wall

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    So are we saying that the consensus is a Luke Cornet signing will be the best likely outcome for the post-draft offseason?
    And a Vassell or KJ trade.

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