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Arizona. The personality. The athleticism. I get some Richard Jefferson vibes. Not the offensive skills. But the person. It's not a 1-1 comparison. I think Carter is a harder worker, so I'll take that.
FWIW, here is a bit of Raynaud's side of the process: https://www.si.com/nba/kings/sacrame...o-01k00bxdfxvx
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Arizona. The personality. The athleticism. I get some Richard Jefferson vibes. Not the offensive skills. But the person. It's not a 1-1 comparison. I think Carter is a harder worker, so I'll take that.
CB has great defensive upside. He hounds people and chase blocks. He only needs to shoot open 3’s, nothing complicated on his 1st year. If he can consistently shot 35% on open 3’s, on top of his nose on defense, I think he’ll get the 12th man role on his 1st year. Easily will be one of Sean’s favorite players, and not just because of Arizona, but CB’s dedication on defense which Sean “Ninja” also proud himself as being one.
12th most MPG last year was Zach Collins at 11.8, this is a deeper roster but not at the wings, if CB can hit open 3s at a respectable clip I wouldn't be surprised by the all star break if he's playiing over Keldon, Champagnie or even Sochan.
He’s a lottery pick, and he’s a much needed archetype at a needed position, with mostly mediocre above him. I’m sure he gets at least gets 15-17 minutes a night like Vassell and Keldon did as rookies. Hopefully he figures things out and forces the team to start him by the end of the year.
CB is basically rookie Sochan.
Good news is he won't be asked to play PG ever.
Bad news is that he's not really a shooter yet (and there's no indication that he ever will be all that great). Serviceable, certainly (32-35% maybe). But, 38%+, maybe if we're lucky.
Either way, he's not now nor do I think he projects to be a 3-D player that would be part of a championship team. I think we'll be having the same discussion about him in 3 years that we have about Sochan now.
They’re not even close to the same player, except in your mind. Carter out shot him from both 3 and at the line, 37% to 29%, and 69% to 59%. Carter is not nearly the on ball D force that Jeremy was immediately, and will be limited in his matchups, because he’s 15 lbs. lighter. He’s going to need about two years in the weight room to get to rookie Jeremy size.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...-jeremy-sochan
Think youre being a little harsh on Carter. All signs have shown him being a shooter. When the compe ion got better In the season, so did his shooting percentage. I don't expect him to have guard abilities anytime soon but I don't see why people worry about a shooters percentage from a couple weeks of games as opposed to an entire season showing he's better than that.
He plays like Shawn Marion or similarly, which would be wonderful cause he was an all-star caliber player that was willing to do the 'dirty work.'
Gotta hope that his collegiate three-point shooting can transition and he becomes the SF of the future.
You have to also take into account what talks they have with players and agents. If agents and players are adamant they don't want to be a developmental project in the g league, that's going to steer the Spurs away as well. Why even bother with the headache when the chance of that pick working out is extremely low?
Not to mention when you've been bad for awhile, you have very little developmental minutes as those 1st rounders start to pile up on the bench. We had 3 of them on the bench last year that were under 21.
I think he can leapfrog either or both of Johnson and Champagnie, but not sure he'd need to move above Sochan. If anything, trying to figure out if he, Sochan and Wemby can be pair together should be a priority.
Also, I think Barnes could be another guy he could surpass, especially if Barnes' defense is as piss poor as last season.
Do you see any stat in this ?
(I was replying to Kobeachilles but since he just quoted me without adding any message nothin appears)
marion was more than just a "dirty work" guy to be fair, and was also an elite rebounder. but yeah the defensive impact of being able to hound people on the perimeter while also being a playmaker even near the rim is something i hope he can emulate. gerald wallace was another defender who did some similar things
Why bring him up at all? He’s not a starter in that scenario. You brought him up saying he’s a good shooter. I don’t see stats which is probably why you thought Fox and SGA shot near the same percentage when they’re 10% points off
Next time don’t bring up a bench player when talking about starters and take the time to actually look up stats before saying asinine things like SGA and Fox are the same shooter
Obviously, man. I said he was an all-star caliber player that can do/is willing to do the dirty work. Marion was a Jack of all trades and probably should be in the HOF, TBH.
We need another guy like that other than Sochan, especially one that isn't a net negative on offense (in theory).
We can only wish for CB to grow and develops into something similar to Matrix.
His senior year he shot in the 80s on his free throws, though not super high volume. But that is reassuring for his shot.
That would be a dream comp.
In which scenario ? Barnes has been a starter all season long.Why bring him up at all? He’s not a starter in that scenario. You brought him up saying he’s a good shooter. I don’t see stats which is probably why you thought Fox and SGA shot near the same percentage when they’re 10% points off
Next time don’t bring up a bench player when talking about starters and take the time to actually look up stats before saying asinine things like SGA and Fox are the same shooter
Regarding SGA and Fox stats, other posters proved you wrong.
Do you really have to be a and laugh at people like that ? Are you 10 years old or what ?
And I don't get advices from a guy who has a laker player on a Spurs forum.
Vassell (will toggle between SG), Barnes, Sochan, Johnson, Champagnie and Olynyk (will toggle between C) are all ahead of Bryant at forward.
Already, probably Olynyk (maybe Kornet in select matchups) and one of Johnson or Champagnie is likely to get squeezed at full strength.
I don't see them doing so to a third rotational player, no matter how much Bryant impresses in mostly the G-League. Maybe that makes a consolidation trade more likely at some point, but he's most likely waiting in the wings until '26-'27 in the best case scenario.
Um the scenario where we were starting Sochan. You literally responded to me as to why Sochan can’t be a starter on our team. Barnes is our PF. If Sochan starts then guess what he starts over Barnes. Nobody proved me wrong. They proved you wrong. I said that OKC has 4 starters that are threats from 3. For some reason you disagreed with that. I’m not sure why. But you did. Then you said that the Spurs starting shooters were just as good as OKC and that meant we could start Sochan. And again you’re wrong. They aren’t as good as OKCs starters. Then you said SGA (who nearly shot 7% better from 3 than Fox) is the same caliber of shooter as Fox from 3. 3 wrong statements in one post. But hey I forget you’re a troll account who tries to copy RD whatever his name is.
Yes I am 10. You were proven wrong by a 10 year old. Good job. And since I am 10 years old that means that your intelligence is below a 10 year old level.
Vecenie just said in his podcast he thought Bryant was not only the best summer league defender, but the best he's seen in a few years
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in the rotation by the trade deadline. I think they are going to try and accelerate his development a little.
The roster still has holes, primarily at the wing position and questionable shooting. I don’t believe winning is a full priority yet since the roster is still being churned (I think Vassell/Johnson/Sochan are on the trade block).
So Bryant playing and making mistakes will kind of be tolerated. Same applies to Harper.
Nice. I was listening to a recently released free episode of Nate Duncan/John Hollinger (Dunc'd On Prime I think its called) and they were giving huge praise to Carter Bryant as well for his summer league defense. Surprised me because usually Nate Duncan anecdotally seems to hate all things Spurs lol. They said his offense is clearly a project as expected but his defense just popped like few others ever have in summer league.
Bring in Bruce or LDN to mentor this kid. He's better than both of them were at this stage of their careers.
Edit: possible I posted this exact thing recently. My early Alzheimer's kicking in.
So it sounds like it’s time for the Carter Bryant point guard experiment this year!?
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