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    I would be very happy if the Spurs found themselves with Etan Thomas. He's a decent center and definetly a help on the glass.

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    Another way to get under the luxury threshold:

    Trade Williams, a second round pick and cash to the Rockets for Scott Padgett. The Rockets have a trade exception and that move would keep both teams under the threshold.

    Peter Holt saves money while the Spurs get worse
    smart move, but wouldn't thos push the Rockets over the threshold? they are at 62.9 million right now. subtract Padgett (1 M), add Williams (4.3) and they get a payroll of 66.2. (the threshold is 65.4)
    however, we could take back another of their dead contracts (Bowen?) and it would work.

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    I would be very happy if the Spurs found themselves with Etan Thomas. He's a decent center and definetly a help on the glass.
    yes, he's decent, but decent at best. and considering that he makes another 20 million over 3 years, it would be a small improvement right now and a big regress for the next years, because Spurs would give up all their cap flexibility (under the tax threshold) and won't be able to do other (more important) moves. IMO Thomas isn't worth this.

    Edit: if Spurs think about such a move, they should go for Jeff Foster. he would be cheaper, he get's "only" 11 million for the next two years, he is the better defender and rebounder than Thomas and (not that it was very important, but it is a nice aspect) he would be a hometown boy comming home. considering all the bigs the Pacers have now on their roster, he might be available.
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    Another way to get under the luxury threshold:

    Trade Williams, a second round pick and cash to the Rockets for Scott Padgett. The Rockets have a trade exception and that move would keep both teams under the threshold.

    Peter Holt saves money while the Spurs get worse
    look. the Houston Chronical is speculating, what teams might be in the hunt for the trade exception of the Rockets (which expires on Tuesday) and they mention the Spurs and Butler. I also thought they might be very interested in Butler, they have to do something for their center position with Yao injured and Mutombo turning 80. they are one of the few teams still designed in this old fashion - big center stile.
    I wonder if the Rockets would talk about including Chuck Hayes in the package. yes, he is undersized, but he is a of a rebounder and defender and if the Spurs in fact buyout Williams, Hayes would be quite an improvement if he takes the spot of Williams.

    The Spurs are over the tax threshold, but even if the Rockets took Jackie Butler ($2.2 million) it would not quite put San Antonio under the tax.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/4543625.html
    this is a mistake IMO. if Spurs deal Butler, they should be almost 1 million under the threshold.

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    I didn't realize Etan Thomas made so much money. Definitely not worth it then.

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    If the Spurs dump Butler to avoid the Lux Tax...ugh

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    If the Spurs dump Butler to avoid the Lux Tax...ugh
    Yeah, if the Spurs do that, I'd go full Ghostal mode up in here.


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    There is a player who I think will be traded at the deadline : Reggie Evans.

    Denver needs to save some money after the AI trade and Evans is the best candidate for that : he has a quite big contract and he is Nuggets' 5th bigman (behind Camby, Nene, Najera and Kleiza).

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    There is a player who I think will be traded at the deadline : Reggie Evans.

    Denver needs to save some money after the AI trade and Evans is the best candidate for that : he has a quite big contract and he is Nuggets' 5th bigman (behind Camby, Nene, Najera and Kleiza).
    At this point, I'd be willing to give up Eric Williams, Luis Scola and a future first round pick to get Evans. His rebounding and energy defensively would be huge.

    Of course, the Spurs could have just signed him in the offseason ... but it's not too late to make up for that mistake.


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    Evans AND Maggette would be my dream. A girl can hope....

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    Man, Reggie Evans has turned into a defensive monster this year. Not only is he rebounding at a huge rate, he's turned the corner and is now a stopper on defense.

    Per 100 possessions, teams have 7.8 few points against the Nuggets when Evans is in the game. That's one of the best numbers in the league.

    When he's on the court, the Nuggets get offensive rebounds on 37.3% of missed shots. That's amazingly high. When he's off the court, they rebound the ball 47% of the time ... compared to 55% of the time when he's on the court.

    Offensively, he scores more than Elson or Oberto and is shooting over 53% from the floor. He's even shooting over 40% on his jumpers.


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    Trade manu for elson.

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    Trade manu for elson.
    If you would have said trade elson for manu, then it would have been reasonable. Two Manu's and no Elson on the Spurs would be pretty good.

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    Reggie Evans' contract ends in 2011.

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    If Danny Fortson were bought out, would you pick him up?

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    Fortson? 20 PF/48 mins Fortson?

    I've seen him be a monster rebounder, position/blocking out, and always seems to have his nose in the plays in crunch time, no fear

    But he can't stay on the court because of PFs, and he's a flagrant thug.

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    Fortson? 20 PF/48 mins Fortson?

    I've seen him be a monster rebounder, position/blocking out, and always seems to have his nose in the plays in crunch time, no fear

    But he can't stay on the court because of PFs, and he's a flagrant thug.
    So is that a No?

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    yes, it's a no, great positives offset more than offset by the negatives.

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    Fortson? 20 PF/48 mins Fortson?

    I've seen him be a monster rebounder, position/blocking out, and always seems to have his nose in the plays in crunch time, no fear

    But he can't stay on the court because of PFs, and he's a flagrant thug.
    I'd take him in a heartbeat over Horry or Oberto. Honestly, I hate the guy but he plays with heart and passion and I think with a team like the Spurs he would be a professional and hustle his ass off. A bigger, better, Malik with more at ude. IMHO, Fortson is what the Spurs need.

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    There is a player who I think will be traded at the deadline : Reggie Evans.

    Denver needs to save some money after the AI trade and Evans is the best candidate for that : he has a quite big contract and he is Nuggets' 5th bigman (behind Camby, Nene, Najera and Kleiza).

    I think you might see Eddie moved first. Eddie and Linas are very similar but LK has more of an offensive game (although eddie is averaging 18ppg over the last couple of games)

    I hope they stay put so the team can get some chemistry going but if they move anyone, then i hope its eddie and not Reggie

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    Evans AND Maggette would be my dream. A girl can hope....
    I am not in your dreams

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    k brown from the lakers
    lakers and spurs never trade

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    I think you might see Eddie moved first.
    I don't think so. Karl seems to like more Najera than Evans and Najera's contract is more friendly than Evans' one.

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    If Danny Fortson were bought out, would you pick him up?
    I don't know the state of his knees : he has been out for a lot of games but I guess that he isn't motivated to play with Seattle.
    If he is healthy enough and if he really wants to play, why not : he can be worth a gamble like Glenn Robinson in 05.

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    , I'd take the mexican too.

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