Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[Goran Dragic]

I'm waiting for an apology CC

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm waiting for an apology CC

[Fabbs]

Fabbs did make the assertion that Zimmerman mighta known who Martin was. He did it right here:


now who's the idiot?

The neighborhood watchman, self appointed or not, might have known about residents in the 'hood he patroled.
Ya i made that stretch.

[Fpoonsie]

So you get su ious whenever someone is wearing a hoody in the rain walking down your street who you don't recognize? I severely doubt that.

Not really, but I wasn't doing a neighborhood watch (self-appointed or otherwise) after a recent outbreak of burglaries.

Then tell me what you admit he did wrong. So far all you've done is justify his decisions.

When the operator told him he didn't need to pursue, he should've stopped short. He certainly should've never gone after him on foot.

So you're inferring about what you know nothing about?

Just like everyone else.

[DisAsTerBot]

Again, no one is saying Zimmerman had no right to make a call. People have different thresholds about what they consider worthy of that kind of call. Since Zimmerman appointed himself the protector of the community, he has his own standard.

Good attempt at a straw man battle, though. Props.

Im not saying people have issues with him calling police, everyone has issues with why he labeled TM as supsicious.
I was asking what made you su ious when you called? Were they committing a crime? Did they look menacing? Out of place? What was it?

[cheguevara]

this sounds like they put an idiot with a loaded gun to patrol the neighborgood. oh wait...

[CosmicCowboy]

I can say that if a young black guy with his pants hanging down over his ass and wearing a hoodie over his head was wandering around my neighborhood in the rain I'm pretty damn sure the police would get called.

[cheguevara]

wandering around

he had family living there

[CosmicCowboy]

Would he be gun downed on sight also?

If he sucker punched me and broke my nose and was slamming my head against the concrete I would kill his ass in a heartbeat.

[Fpoonsie]

That was not my question.

I don't have a theory on the actual event. All I think I know is:

-Zimmerman saw someone he didn't recognize and believed to be su ious.
-Zimmerman called the non-emergency 911 operator
-Zimmerman continued to follow "su ious" person, both in his vehicle and on foot, even after being told that it wasn't necessary by the operator
-Zimmerman lost sight of TM
-Zimmerman rediscovers TM and a confrontation ensues.
-TM ends up dead. Zimmerman leaves bloodied and bruised.

[Fabbs]

What part of this transcript would make you believe that Zimmerman had any prior knowledge of Martin's personal records?

Transcript?

[DarrinS]

Would he be gun downed on sight also?

Is that what happened?

[ChumpDumper]

Im not saying people have issues with him calling police, everyone has issues with why he labeled TM as supsicious.
I was asking what made you su ious when you called? Were they committing a crime? Did they look menacing? Out of place? What was it?

Again, it had nothing to do with hoodies, facebook, twitter, grills or sealed school records.

These are the reasons cited here as rousing Zimmerman's su ions.

[cheguevara]

killing someone for giving you an old fashioned assbeating

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have a theory on the actual event.

Sure.

[ChumpDumper]

Transcript?

[DisAsTerBot]

Again, it had nothing to do with hoodies, facebook, twitter, grills or sealed school records.

People have different thresholds about what they consider worthy of that kind of call.

[coyotes_geek]

@coyote, Zimmerman was following him around in his car, when suspect ran to get away, Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue once again.That's not repeated action?

I can't seem to find a timeline of how long it was from the 911 call to the gunshot, but it wasn't hours and hours. I think a good defense attorney would have a pretty easy time making the case that everything was just one event.

[Fpoonsie]

Again, it had nothing to do with facebook, or sealed school records.

These are the reasons cited here as rousing Zimmerman's su ions.

No, they're not.

[DarrinS]

no he just got chased down, beaten up, and then shot for walking down the street.

so much better.

That's what you think happened?

[ChumpDumper]

No, they're not.

Yes, they are.

[DisAsTerBot]

Again, it had nothing to do with hoodies, facebook, twitter, grills or sealed school records.

These are the reasons cited here as rousing Zimmerman's su ions.

ah, ok. So it's not about the actual case and looking at all possible angles. It's about winning an argument on spurstalk. Got it.

[ChumpDumper]

[quotes posted without a point]

Are you still arguing what no one else is arguing?

[ChumpDumper]

ah, ok. So it's not about the actual case and looking at all possible angles. It's about winning an argument on spurstalk. Got it.

It's about your arguing something no one is arguing about -- Zimmerman's right to voice his su ion to law enforcement.

You're the one trying to talk about a completely different case -- mine.

Got it?

[Creepn]

I don't have a theory on the actual event. All I think I know is:

-Zimmerman saw someone he didn't recognize and believed to be su ious.
-Zimmerman called the non-emergency 911 operator
-Zimmerman continued to follow "su ious" person, both in his vehicle and on foot, even after being told that it wasn't necessary by the operator
-Zimmerman lost sight of TM
-Zimmerman rediscovers TM and a confrontation ensues.
-TM ends up dead. Zimmerman leaves bloodied and bruised.

Sounds like repeated stalking attempts. That's illegal in Florida ya know?