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    Wow, you're really on a roll, RG. Anybody, who Trump nominates is gonna have a hard time. Look at the well-qualified SC justice - had to do the nuclear option to get him in because Dems RESIST.

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    Wow, you're really on a roll, RG. Anybody, who Trump nominates is gonna have a hard time. Look at the well-qualified SC justice - had to do the nuclear option to get him in because Dems RESIST.
    You mean because McConnell stole Obama's appointment.

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    Wow, you're really on a roll, RG. Anybody, who Trump nominates is gonna have a hard time. Look at the well-qualified SC justice - had to do the nuclear option to get him in because Dems RESIST.
    Sorry, but the GOP controls the white house and both arms of Congress.

    That excuse doesn't explain the pace of the nominating process, even so.

    Can't you find a better talking point to parrot?

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    You mean because McConnell stole Obama's appointment.
    No reason for Democrats to be upset about that. Fair is fair. That is what elections are for. [/sarcasm]

    And we all know the GOP would be screaming bloody ing murder if the party situation was reversed.

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    That is what boggles my mind.

    Christianity and Republican policies... just don't mesh well, without a heavy dose of hypocrisy.

    (edit)

    Great bit. Franken is very insightful.

    Pretty sure Franken knows what the nuclear triad is, and how Russia's isn't quite tippy-top, either.
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    https://www.biblegateway.com/

    Bible gateway. Great place for all versions of the bible, IMO.

    Search for the word "poor".

    https://www.biblegateway.com/quickse...qs_version=NIV

    176 Bible results for “poor.” Showing results 1-176.

    Seems fairly straightforward to me, even as a non-believer.

    “If I have denied the desires of the poor
    or let the eyes of the widow grow weary,
    17 if I have kept my bread to myself,
    not sharing it with the fatherless—
    18 but from my youth I reared them as a father would,
    and from my birth I guided the widow—
    19 if I have seen anyone perishing for lack of clothing,
    or the needy without garments,
    20 and their hearts did not bless me
    for warming them with the fleece from my sheep,
    21 if I have raised my hand against the fatherless,
    knowing that I had influence in court,
    22 then let my arm fall from the shoulder,
    let it be broken off at the joint.
    23 For I dreaded destruction from God,
    and for fear of his splendor I could not do such things.
    Fair representation there. Seems very unambiguous.

    Then you get the asshats who gloss over that:
    "The Scripture tells us in 2 Thessalonians 3-10, he says, 'For even when we were with you we gave you this rule: If a man will not work he shall not eat.' And then he goes on to say, 'We hear that some among you are idle,'" the Texas Congressman preached.

    Rep. Arrington was trying to jam a cherry-picked Bible passage to fit his own prejudices, namely, that poor people are lazy, or, as The Washington Post, which first reported this story says, many Republicans think those utilizing food stamps are "freeloaders."

    "But policy experts say that is not the case. Many unemployed adults on SNAP simply cannot work, they say. Those include the mentally ill, the borderline disabled and veterans," The Post reports.
    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...ny_food_stamps
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    many adults who WORK need foodstamps

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    Senate Referee Rejects Key Pieces Of Repeal Bill, Dealing Major Blow To GOP

    Abortion provision is out, potentially making bill toxic for conservatives.

    the Senate parliamentarianruled that nearly a dozen key provisions of GOP repeal legislation violate special procedural rules that Republicans are using to pass their bill.

    The list of provisions includes a clause, which many conservatives consider essential, that would defund Planned Parenthood and block federal money from helping to pay for insurance policies that cover abortion.

    Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough also ruled out a six-month “lockout” period for people trying to buy insurance after they have let it lapse ― a key policy feature of the Senate bill that insurers say is vital to keeping markets stable.

    Politically, the biggest blow for Republicans is the ruling that a provision prohibiting funds from being used to purchase insurance policies that cover abortion. That rider was key to House conservatives accepting their version of the legislation, and

    Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows suggested that, without that prohibition, the bill could not pass the House on the way back from the Senate.

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    Christian Supremacists up govt again.

    Repugs can't ing govern their own party, never mind the US govt.


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    What ty job - as far as I'm concerned, he's already done some of what I wanted him to do - appointed a young, conservative to the SC - southern border crossings are way down - less refugees from terrorist countries coming in the US (despite liberal obstructionist judges). It isn't his fault these spineless cowards in Congress can't put a repeal and replace bill on his desk for him to sign. Just exactly what do you expect when his appointments are being approved at snail's pace and there is resistance against him from both sides of the aisle and the media.
    Would you say that Trump has done a good job of selling the republican health care plan to the American people?

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    Would you say that Trump has done a good job of selling the republican health care plan to the American people?
    What do you suggest? That he sell it with lies the way Obama did - he did an excellent job selling ACA, didn't he? Smooth and completely on message - how many times did he say we could keep our doctors and our plans and save $2500 per family? What is there to sell - who even knows what this healthcare bill is - it changes everyday as they try to buy off another Senator (and lose another on the opposite end) and it's not even reconciled with the House version.

    I no longer care about the messaging coming from the WH - no matter if it was excellent, the media/Dems would still trash it. Stop the Medicaid expansion, put work requirements for it on able-bodied recipients and lower the premiums with choice and compe ion.

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    What do you suggest? That he sell it with lies the way Obama did - he did an excellent job selling ACA, didn't he? Smooth and completely on message - how many times did he say we could keep our doctors and our plans and save $2500 per family? What is there to sell - who even knows what this healthcare bill is - it changes everyday as they try to buy off another Senator (and lose another on the opposite end) and it's not even reconciled with the House version.

    I no longer care about the messaging coming from the WH - no matter if it was excellent, the media/Dems would still trash it. Stop the Medicaid expansion, put work requirements for it on able-bodied recipients and lower the premiums with choice and compe ion.
    Your boy sold it with nothing but lies on the campaign trail. Remember when Trump talked about how he'd cover everyone? How he wasn't like other Republicans because he wouldn't make any cuts to Medicaid? Trump promised one thing and did a complete 180 once his crooked ass got into power.

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    One is suggesting that Trump do a better job of SELLING this so far non-existent healthcare plan and another is comparing Trump's CAMPAIGN selling of a REALLY non-existent healthcare plan. BB, are you really comparing Trump on the campaign trail and this as of yet non-existent health care bill to Obama (up until October 25, 2013) 36 times lying about ACA that he SIGNED INTO LAW on March 23, 2010.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ep+your+doctor

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    One is suggesting that Trump do a better job of SELLING this so far non-existent healthcare plan and another is comparing Trump's CAMPAIGN selling of a REALLY non-existent healthcare plan. BB, are you really comparing Trump on the campaign trail and this as of yet non-existent health care bill to Obama (up until October 25, 2013) 36 times lying about ACA that he SIGNED INTO LAW on March 23, 2010.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ep+your+doctor
    & earlier they told him to stay out of it and it would pass.

    It's all horse .

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    One is suggesting that Trump do a better job of SELLING this so far non-existent healthcare plan and another is comparing Trump's CAMPAIGN selling of a REALLY non-existent healthcare plan. BB, are you really comparing Trump on the campaign trail and this as of yet non-existent health care bill to Obama (up until October 25, 2013) 36 times lying about ACA that he SIGNED INTO LAW on March 23, 2010.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ep+your+doctor
    LOL ignoring the fact that Trump ran on covering everyone, no exceptions, with better and cheaper healthcare while not cutting Medicaid and instead his plan is to cut 22 million to 32 million people off their insurance while gutting Medicaid. LOL trying to defend Trump's complete bait & switch. All your boy has done is lie about healthcare. It was going to be easy but your boy is such a lazy piece of he just let Ryan write the thing after all his campaigning on not being a typical Republican looking to over the working class.
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    What do you suggest? That he sell it with lies the way Obama did - he did an excellent job selling ACA, didn't he? Smooth and completely on message - how many times did he say we could keep our doctors and our plans and save $2500 per family? What is there to sell - who even knows what this healthcare bill is - it changes everyday as they try to buy off another Senator (and lose another on the opposite end) and it's not even reconciled with the House version.

    I no longer care about the messaging coming from the WH - no matter if it was excellent, the media/Dems would still trash it. Stop the Medicaid expansion, put work requirements for it on able-bodied recipients and lower the premiums with choice and compe ion.
    i suggest the leader of the free world know the very absolute basics of how healthcare works, especially when its central to his campaign and election. i also suggest the people who voted for him hold him to that very low standard instead of doing olympic-level acrobatics to apologize for his ing ignorance on the subject.

    stop being such a stupid ing lemming and be a good american for a change

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    "basics of how healthcare works, especially when its central to his campaign and election"

    Repugs are ing around with 25% of the economy. Trash ought to know about it, but he's intellectually stunted, can' concentrate, ADD?, and ing stupid.

    health care doesn't make him more wealthy or aggrandize him, so he has no interest.


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    In his only fit of violent anger, He did throe the ing money men out of the Temple

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    UPDATE: Senate health repeal FAILS the Byrd Rule; Freedom Caucus throws in the towel!




    The GOP Senate version of Obamacare repeal, known as BCRA, does not meet the requirements of the Byrd Rule in many important areas, according to a ruling from the Senate Parliamentarian. Those provisions would have to be removed from the bill in order for the bill to pass under “reconciliation” rules, i.e., the “Byrd Rule”.
    Which means that the bill as it stands would require 60 votes to avoid a Democratic filibuster.


    MAJOR UPDATE BELOW, but:

    The GOP Senate version of Obamacare repeal, known as BCRA, does not meet the requirements of the Byrd Rule in many important areas, according to a ruling from the Senate Parliamentarian. Those provisions would have to be removed from the bill in order for the bill to pass under “reconciliation” rules, i.e., the “Byrd Rule”.

    Which means that the bill as it stands would require 60 votes to avoid a Democratic filibuster.

    The Senate could theoretically overrule the Parliamentarian, but that would be a declaration-of-war kind of thing, and

    give the GOP yet-another black eye in the ethics and honesty department.

    So I doubt Mitch would go there on a bill that’s probably doomed anyway.

    ( that erroneously assume that M and GOP GAF about "ethics and honestly" )

    MAJOR UPDATE:

    Mark Meadows, chairman of the far-far-far-right Freedom Caucus (in the House) now says

    passage of Trumpcare is “almost impossible,”

    according to this tweet from Matt Fuller:

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    Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows reacts to Parliamentarian striking down the abortion funding prohibition.

    "Passage almost impossible."

    5:07 PM - 21 Jul 2017

    This is big, because it has long been thought that if Mitch can just get something, anything through the Senate, the House would then simply vote for whatever pile of poo-poo the Senate might pass.

    But

    without the Planned Parenthood part of the bill, it’s clear that the House won’t be able to do that.

    Or, to put it more succinctly: anything that the Senate Parliamentarian approves, the Freedom Caucus won’t. Woo-hoo!


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/21/1682888/-BREAKING-Senate-health-repeal-FAILS-the-Byrd-Rule-says-Parliamentarian?detail=emaildkre



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    "We can't afford single-payer"

    ... is not the answer, nor is public option.

    the only solution is Medicare for all, which will be blocked by BigInsurance.

    Repugs found $1B+ for a tiny piece of Trash's wall which will destroy a very old wildlife preserve.

    The Repugs will move on from govt property to stealing private property to build Trash's wall.

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    President Donald Trump will address the nation at 3:15 p.m. Eastern on Monday, according to a tweet by a USA Today editor that was retweeted by the official USA Today Twitter account:

    BREAKING: President Trump to address nation about health care Monday at 3:15 p.m. ET. Full coverage @usatoday

    — Carolyn Cerbin (@carolyncerbin) July 24, 2017

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