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    Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if the Kurds become the next al Qaeda. We just ed them big time and sold them out to Erdogan.
    Even the US no-fly zone in Iraq may turn out to have been a cruel seduction. We gave the Peshmerga and the PKK a toehold. Hope they can keep it, Syria and Turkey aren't far away.

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    Nor Iraq, nor Iran.

    Boxed in.

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    Is there a de facto Kurdistan?

    Maybe not.

    Maybe there never was, but while the US is fighting there, it sure looks like it. The no fly regime started under GHWB was strenuously observed by his immediate successors.

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    Kurds got ed by WWI. They just need to hire the Palestianians PR agent.

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    Kurds got ed by WWI.
    I don't know that story, can you tell it?

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    They just need to hire the Palestianians PR agent.
    Wha?

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    Yeah, those guys have it easy!

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    anonymous sauces say:


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    unrelatedly:

    The U.S. has approved the potential sale to Turkey of $3.5 billion in Patriot missiles, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced late Tuesday.
    https://www.defenseone.com/news/2018...9-2018/153667/

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    Kurds got ed by WWI. They just need to hire the Palestianians PR agent.
    Too much to write here. Research the collapse of the Ottoman Empire (who sided with the defeated axis powers), the rise of Turkey and arbitrary national boundaries established (Syria, Iraq etc.) by the Colonial powers that disregarded logical tribal/religious groupings.

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    I know a little about Sykes-Picot, what book(s) about it do you recommend?

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    Kurds got ed by WWI. They just need to hire the Palestianians PR agent.
    You mean the guys that take money from other countries and then lead their people to slaughter while they sit back enjoying the wealth? Create a permanent history of producing fodder.... I don’t think the Kurds want that.

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    I know a little about Sykes-Picot, what book(s) about it do you recommend?
    good summary, imperial Britain, actually some ditzy Brit lady, USA/European empires, predators, exploiters ing up the world

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Sykes-Picot-Agreement

    made for a great film

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...bia-180951857/

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    dude, that is literally the same link I just embedded

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    thanks for the extra link

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    dude, that is literally the same link I just embedded
    dude, my links are inherently superior

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    We can disagree on the integrity of General Mattis.
    i guess now you'll disagree with yourself on the integrity of General Mattis

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    i guess now you'll disagree with yourself on the integrity of General Mattis
    If he's running for POTUS in 2020 as reported, it would make sense to on Trump on the way out. His talk about international world orders are quite concerning to me OTOH.

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    If he's running for POTUS in 2020 as reported, it would make sense to on Trump on the way out. His talk about international world orders are quite concerning to me OTOH.
    Explain Mattis's views on international world orders in your own words.

    I'd love to see your view of this.

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    Explain Mattis's views on international world orders in your own words.

    I'd love to see your view of this.
    Read the letter Pavlov.

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    Interesting

    Nothing from John Bolton
    He’s got to be fuming.

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    apparently, we'll leave a few hundred troops behind in al-Tanf. partial withdrawal method.

    The presence of US forces at al-Tanf prevents Iran from establishing a continuous land bridge across Iraq and Syria and into Lebanon, giving it the ability to threaten Israel.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-t...ge-iran-2019-1

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    interesting for the WWIII verbiage.

    nuts : Obama lost the war in 2015 to Russia and its allies, Trump and Turkey continue to protect Al Qaeda in Idlib.

    https://www.salon.com/2019/04/21/rep...feat-in-syria/

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    TheGreatYacht: so, what's your take, man?

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