He's a confident dude, he'll learn. It's better to shoot 1-13 than start 1-5 and stop shooting at all because of fear.
White has been shooting 1-5 from deep nightly for a half a season and suddenly found his stroke so Primo should be fine. With that being said he is still along the lines of Vassell, KJ, White in terms of recent draft picks; not at all the franchise player this board purports.
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Primo will be fine����
I think he's finished at this point. Too old, tbh.
Vassell is one of my favorites, and I will flat out say that Primos court vision and passing s all over Devins.
Whatever magic pixie dust they did with that Leonard guy drafted out of San Diego 10 yrs ago you would think they could replicate it with Vassell or Primo
Hopefully����
Doesn’t work this way. Kawhi came into a great environment with 3 future hall of famers which enabled him to hone his skillset, piece by piece, starting with defense. Right time, right place coupled with a freakish work ethic and desire to be great. Tough to replicate that.
Last edited by KingKev; 02-04-2022 at 12:54 PM.
There is no metric to gauge heart / desire so I won’t pretend to know Primos or Vassells! Hopefully they want to be great…..
Agreed. And in that winning environment where everybody elevates their games because of high expectations, in contrast to getting blown by GLeaguers in your own gym.
It is also the reason why I don't support a team purposely tank, the players will develop a defeatist mentality
Kawhi had some insane physical traits that you can't teach. The wingspan and hand size combined with his already great defensive instincts made him one of the league's best defenders in only his rookie season. He already had a rock solid foundation to build upon.
Someone like Keldon, for example, will never have Kawhi's impact because the physical traits and the defensive IQ just aren't there.
Agreed that's why I think it's wrong to compare a guy like Vassell or Keldon to Kawhi. Vassell for example is more comparable to Alan Houston due to his style of play and body type. No matter how hard Vassell works he can't be Kawhi because his body type won't allow him to replicate Kawhi's game.
He needs to stay in Austin for another year.
I like the Alan Houston comp. Vassell even has some of that move to create space for himself that Alan Houston mastered.
Pop was right with taking his time with Primo
Josh Richardson will get some of his minutes soon. He should still be playing every game just less minutes.
He just needs to be assertive and get comfortable in his role and make the most out of it. Not sure how Richardson will play into the rotation but I think Primo is here to stay some where in the rotation for the remainder of the season. Also not worried about his 3 point shot whatsoever it will come.
Keep in mind that Alan Houston didn't establish himself as a good player until his third year in the league and Alan was also a 4-year college player. If Devin keeps working hard, I think we will see him break out in year 4 as a good player.
Primo is a rookie playing against seasoned grown men in case some have forgotten….. let that man live. He’s a heady player that is learning on the job.
You can’t talk sensible on this site! Don’t you know at least 5 to 6 dudes on here forgot more basketball than Pop knows.
This dude is a overrated
Yeah, ahh, sorry. I am not down with that. We had a guy called Tim Duncan starting. I can't accept Collins as a starter in the PF slot. Not if you want to win and be a playoff team. If you're expecting Collins to start, that Spurs team ain't going anywhere IMO. He's a bench player at best on a decent team.
This is something I think about from time to time. How/why Kawhi became so great compared to the player he was when he joined the Spurs. I feel that he had an amazing work ethic and desire to be great, but I also wonder if the situation he came into allowed him to get there.
I also wonder how big of a part the Spurs coaching and development had in him becoming that great. When he was still playing for the Spurs, I thought it was mostly him and the work he put in that got him to MVP level, but I now feel maybe he never would have been as good as he did without the Spurs development. I didn't 100% feel that way when he was on the Spurs. That is why I am still upset that he left the way he did. It seems to me he viewed it the opposite way and would have become that good with or without the Spurs, so that is why I think it was so easy for him to leave the Spurs. It's like he didn't feel/think the Spurs played that big of a role and he wasn't appreciative towards them helping to make him the player he had become. Maybe his ego just got too big by that time, I don't know. I still don't like thinking about it.
I also wonder if the lockout and Chip's tips on tweaking his shots worked better with Chip only having a few days to show him how to tweak his shot, then leaving Kawhi for months on his own during the lockout to concentrate on what Chip taught him. Maybe if there was no lockout and he was constantly working with Chip, he may not have become as good of a shooter.
It's a very fine line, and maybe all these little things and cir stances played a huge part in turning him into an MVP level player. As mentioned, now that he's gone, it feels like he wasn't appreciative of all the time and effort the Spurs put into helping him develop (otherwise, I don't think he would have left the way he did IMO), and possibly he thinks it was mostly himself that made the improvements and they didn't have much to do with it. I really do wonder what his mindset is in regard to all that. I don't know, maybe he thinks the Spurs held him back because of their system.
Edit : Forgot to mention you point. I agree, it's not going to be anywhere near as easy to develop Primo or Vassell like the Spurs were able to with Kawhi (at worst, 50% was Kawhi himself and his work ethic and his absolute desire to be one of the best players on the planet that pushed him to that level). He also got to play in bigtime games from the very start of his career to see what it's all about, and also in huge playoff games without the pressure of being the man as he had Tim, Tony, Manu to take that pressure off of him. Completely different cir stances these current guys are in.
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