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Women aren't going to get their rights back by asking the GOP nicely.
(Did someone step on a frog? I just heard a faint, flatulent sound.)
Women aren't going to get their rights back by asking the GOP nicely.
what snowflakes, we're talking about chalk on a sidewalk
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The Union won the war but lost the peace. 1877 was the end of Reconstruction and the redemption of racist terror.
We had a brief respite from the legal regime of white supremacist patriarchy starting in the 1950s, but now revanchists in the GOP are dialing it back 160 years.
Dems having a firmer stance against protests than rights being taken away tells you almost everything you need to know about them. Unanimous consent.
because we really care about life
does anyone recall what the number one killer of pregnant women is?
It's all about will to power, Republicans have no core beliefs other than that they should rule.
Weird that totally nonviolent protests prompted immediate, bipartisan action to protect judges. Quite the contrast to when the US Congress was attacked to overturn a US election. Or to at home protests and death threats against election officials after Biden beat Trump. Or to at home protests and death threats against school board members thought to be sympathetic to so-called CRT.
Wine Ho still thinks they are non violent protests when articles are published daily saying otherwise,,,in fact I just posted one on here where these "peaceful" pro abortion protesters pelted LA cops with rocks and bottles,,,,tell me, Wine Ho,,,,what did the cops have to do with the supreme court decision to get treated like that?
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wine ho's response,,,,
You don't see them doing ANY of it? They've done most of those things, with positive effect, at one point or another in the past ten years.
Democrats will just distance from this and Republicans will use it to justify fascism. This is literally like shooting the ball into your own basket to keep the other team from scoring, for the sake of catharsis.I also doubt any of that would prevent the GOP from going full fascist in 2024, ins utionalizing permanent minority rule.They're not going to rest content with criminalizing just women and trans folk. , they've already banned talking about civil rights in several states.
Maybe the people need to scare the Dems into doing something for them, genteel parliamentary discourse essentially cedes the battlefield to the remorseless, principle-free, raw power focused GOP.
Other than making an effort during the last cycle to drive turnout in red areas I have no idea what you mean. The DNC still burns up money in high profile, unwinnable races. Which "better organized, effective" marches are you referring to? The women's marches in 2017 and the racial justice/police brutality marches in 2020 resulted in no reform and a substantial pro-police backlash.
Democrats Don't have the stomach or the will to fight fascism, in other words. Or even to deliver concrete goodies to their own cons uents.They'll play by Marquess of Queensbury rules while Republicans block everything, wreck democracy and demolish our freedom.Democrats will just distance from this and Republicans will use it to justify fascism. This is literally like shooting the ball into your own basket to keep the other team from scoring, for the sake of catharsis.
You do know that when the GOP steals the presidency in 2024, it will be legal, right? Red swing states have awarded their own legislatures the ability to overturn elections.It's a matter of when, not if. A captive judiciary will rubber stamp it too.
That's a short sighted view of the women's marches. Overall their impact to public sentiment and (especially) voter registration was positive. Dems won a lot of seats back. Just not enough.
That the "defund" marches resulted in pro-police backlash is a perfect example of why these sorts of things are counterproductive. You recognize this.
Then do something productive instead of settling for cathartic pandering.Democrats Don't have the stomach or the will to fight fascism, in other words. Or even to deliver concrete goodies to their own cons uents.They'll play by Marquess of Queensbury rules while Republicans block everything, wreck democracy and demolish our freedom.
You do know that when the GOP steals the presidency in 2024, it will be legal, right? Red swing states have awarded their own legislatures the ability to overturn elections.It's a matter of when, not if. A captive judiciary will rubber stamp it too.
Can you quantify this, or is more or less an intuitive take? I doubt you can quantify the effect of "defund" either, tbh.
Like what?
I think standing up publicly against extremist Republicans and an off the rails judiciary is apropos pretty much regardless.
It's an educated opinion based on knowing political strategists/candidates and knowing the results of the 2018 elections. Look up the public sentiment around the defund marches. You already said they led to pro-police backlash and I agreed.
You keep going back to whether or not it's "appropriate" when I'm talking about whether or not it's effective.Like what?
I think standing up publicly against extremist Republicans and an off the rails judiciary is apropos pretty much regardless.
I keep asking what would be more effective for people to do and you keep ducking. I think people standing up publicly in large numbers for what they believe in encourages others and influences politicians -- sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. I don't think it's possible to say in advance what will or won't work.
(Sometimes it's important to stand up for what's right even if it's not politically effective, or even counterproductive in the short term. Not sure why effectiveness should always be decisive. Morals and commitment should count for something.)
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Dems should have expelled members of Congress with a swiftness after J6. Anyone who supported overturning the election.
Big missed opportunity.
the line between abortion and miscarriage has been blurred, with fatal/fateful consequences for women and access to appropriate medical care
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...r-miscarriagesOne Texas law passed last year lists several medications as abortion-inducing drugs and largely bars their use for abortion after the seventh week of pregnancy. But two of those drugs, misoprostol and mifepristone, are the only drugs recommended in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists guidelines for treating a patient after an early pregnancy loss.
The other miscarriage treatment is a procedure described as surgical uterine evacuation to remove the pregnancy tissue — the same approach as for an abortion.
"The challenge is that the treatment for an abortion and the treatment for a miscarriage are exactly the same," said Dr. Sarah Prager, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Washington in Seattle and an expert in early pregnancy loss.
Miscarriages occur in roughly 1 out of 10 pregnancies. Some people experience loss of pregnancy at home and don't require additional care, other than emotional support, said Dr. Tony Ogburn, who chairs the OB-GYN department at the University of Texas-Rio Grande Valley School of Medicine. But in other situations, he said, providers may need to intervene to stop bleeding and make sure no pregnancy tissue remains, as a guard against infection.
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