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    Wesley needs to be sent to the G-league for the foreseable future. Let him develop his offensive game there, give him all the green light in the World and see if he can produce there. If he does, then you give him a shot back with the big boys, if not, off to China.
    He was putting up 17.5 in the G League last year but I still agree that is the place for him right now.

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    I doubt this is a permanent demotion and Wesley will get another crack at being a rotation player (at least until Jones and possibly Vassell are back).

    Pop is gonna have some hard decisions to make once Vassell and Jones are back. Which will likely be when Brahnam & Wesley see a lot less on-court time.

    They both need to observe and learn from Chris Paul, anyway, while the better prospect and veteran (Jones) lead the bench.

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    He was putting up 17.5 in the G League last year but I still agree that is the place for him right now.
    He's stuck between being too good for G-League but not even close to good enough offensively to be rotational guard in the NBA.

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    I doubt this is a permanent demotion and Wesley will get another crack at being a rotation player (at least until Jones and possibly Vassell are back).

    Pop is gonna have some hard decisions to make once Vassell and Jones are back. Which will likely be when Brahnam & Wesley see a lot less on-court time.

    They both need to observe and learn from Chris Paul, anyway, while the better prospect and veteran (Jones) lead the bench.
    No doubt. I haven't given up on him completely either but right now he's losing to everyone else. Tre Jones can run PG and knows where he can gets his scoring from too. His game is limited, but he plays well within it. Branham is frustrating but he is aggressive and can knock down shots at time. Even if it's not often enough, Wesley flat out can't. Tre is a better player than both of them.

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    I doubt this is a permanent demotion and Wesley will get another crack at being a rotation player (at least until Jones and possibly Vassell are back).

    Pop is gonna have some hard decisions to make once Vassell and Jones are back. Which will likely be when Brahnam & Wesley see a lot less on-court time.

    They both need to observe and learn from Chris Paul, anyway, while the better prospect and veteran (Jones) lead the bench.
    How is it a hard decision? Jones and Vassell are above average NBA players, Branham and, specially, Wesley aren't even rotation pieces.

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    How is it a hard decision? Jones and Vassell are above average NBA players, Branham and, specially, Wesley aren't even rotation pieces.
    Sorry, I meant more with Champagnie, Johnson and Mamu. Those 2 (Branham & Wesley) are going to see spot minutes and mop up duty once the backcourt is at full strength.

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    Well, I sure hope this is it for the Wesley experiment, but with the old fart you never know.

    Mamu over Wesley should have always been the case, it makes much more sense. The old fart was playing Wesley, Castle, Branham, Keldon and Collins off the bench. 4 guards and a center. With Mamu not only you get everyone to slip down to their actual positions (Castle PG, Branham SG, Keldon SF) but you get a shooter instead of a non-shooter. There isn't a single aspect where this move didn't make sense, I don't know what the Pop was thinking with his bull rotation.
    i'd been pounding the table for mamu to be the reserve 4 most of the offseason

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    I'm done with Wesley. His defense has a lot of potential but what we need right now is shooting and in spades. Even discounting outside work, if you can't punish a mismatch like being paired purposefully, multiple possessions, on a center (Adams), then you worked on the wrong thing in the off-season. Right now, I wouldn't play him a single minute when Tre returns.

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    How is it a hard decision? Jones and Vassell are above average NBA players, Branham and, specially, Wesley aren't even rotation pieces.
    Branham is 100% a rotation piece. May not eventually be with SAS, but he is. SpursTalk needs to reevaluate this one or stop the group think.

    It's far from too late for Wesley. He's a good full-court defender and disruptive in the half court. He seems to take care of the ball and can hit open guys. He's extremely fast and can get into the lane at will.

    Problems are -- he's too small and slight against bigger players, his discipline and ability to read offensive players one-on-one isn't the best, and his finishing is really bad.

    Can those things be fixed? He's come a good ways. I don't see any reason to sound the alarm just yet. The problem is floor time and where to get it.

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    Sorry, I meant more with Champagnie, Johnson and Mamu. Those 2 (Branham & Wesley) are going to see spot minutes and mop up duty once the backcourt is at full strength.
    i think the tougher question is what happens with Tre Jones. return of vassell movies champagnie to the bench where he will be the primary reserve 2 instead of branham, and allows castle to spend more time at the 1. obviously in games where castle just isnt playing well, we'd have the luxury of going to Tre, but i dont think his playing time needs to be an emphasis.

    mamu should just be the reserve 4. reserve lineup would be Castle/Champagnie/Keldon/Mamu/Collins. thats enough spacing for Castle to operate

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    The team has major offensive challenges, and the fact that Blake can drive into the paint at will and is looking to pass to other people, I think, is actually helpful. Obviously he has huge limitations. And yes, Jones is better at making safer reads and being generally competent. The problem is, in my opinion, the team really needs a point guard who can drive and kick and there's really not a lot of great options. Blake and Castle seem to be best suited for that skill right now.

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    The team has major offensive challenges, and the fact that Blake can drive into the paint at will and is looking to pass to other people, I think, is actually helpful. Obviously he has huge limitations. And yes, Jones is better at making safer reads and being generally competent. The problem is, in my opinion, the team really needs a point guard who can drive and kick and there's really not a lot of great options. Blake and Castle seem to be best suited for that skill right now.
    These drives and kicks by Wesley are here among us?

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    Driving and kicking only works when the guy driving can actually score at the ing rim and pulls in a perimeter defender. which does not work for Wesley at all because he is one of the most offensively challenged players i've ever seen and no one is concerned about him scoring

    dude's just out there doing cardio. playing ok defense here and there does not warrant a roster spot. Kid is simply not an NBA level player and likely never will be

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    Driving and kicking only works when the guy driving can actually score at the ing rim and pulls in a perimeter defender. which does not work for Wesley at all because he is one of the most offensively challenged players i've ever seen and no one is concerned about him scoring

    dude's just out there doing cardio. playing ok defense here and there does not warrant a roster spot. Kid is simply not an NBA level player and likely never will be
    He has the skill set to be a smaller Dyson Daniels/Dante Exum - type player, IMO, but I think the progress he showed last season hasn't carried over.

    People are down on him big time and I understand questioning his long-term viability in the NBA, but the kid does have some positive traits.

    He'll either figure things out or be gone by sometime next season, so everyone can find a new 'whipping boy.'

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    I don't know what Wesley does on an nba level besides "be fast" tbh.

    Sure he's a pesky defender but so is Bronny

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    These drives and kicks by Wesley are here among us?
    L LOL

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    Tre Jones is a solid backup and for the moment brings needed competency for a shaky roster. But he generally doesn't really move the needle much on offense. I'm not exactly clamoring for him to come back quickly. I'd rather see more Castle foremost, and probably some more of Wesley to give him more of an opportunity before closing the book on him.

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    He needs a floater and develop more touch. Dude has an attribute that is rare…blazing speed but can’t quite harness it yet. He has show progression from last year.

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    Rise of the phoenix tbh

    Is this version of him here to stay or is it another series of fluke performances..?

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    Rise of the phoenix tbh

    Is this version of him here to stay or is it another series of fluke performances..?
    I definitely think he’s eating into Tre’s minutes. He also seems to have great chemistry with Castle. He just might make Tre expendable.

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    He’s better than Jones!

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    He’s better than Jones!
    Speaking of, Jones ing sucks.

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    Been really impressed with him that last two games. Form is temporary, but class is permanent... let's hope this is who Blake is.

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    Long term, I think the best complimentary guard to Castle(methodical, cerebral, strong) is an athletic speedster who can blow by defenders and keep up with the Sexton/Poole/Garland types. The only guy who even comes close on the current roster is Blake, and imo that's why they seem to have a great synergy. If we can get TP to spend a summer with him developing a floater(along with further natural development) those two could be absolutely devastating.

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    Long term, I think the best complimentary guard to Castle(methodical, cerebral, strong) is an athletic speedster who can blow by defenders and keep up with the Sexton/Poole/Garland types. The only guy who even comes close on the current roster is Blake, and imo that's why they seem to have a great synergy. If we can get TP to spend a summer with him developing a floater(along with further natural development) those two could be absolutely devastating.
    TP is a selfish prick, would never do it. Blake is here to stay regardless. And yes Tre Jones sux and should be traded in a package with Keldon at the deadline for picks or one good role player who can 3 and D.

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