Charania: Spurs Have Exploratory Interest In Murray

[NASpurs]

Wow the Knicks FO are turning the cursed franchise around... if that trade goes through.

[exstatic]

Wow the Knicks FO are turning the cursed franchise around... if that trade goes through.

It’s amazing what happens when a meddling,idiotic owner steps out of the way.

[CGD]

Wow the Knicks FO are turning the cursed franchise around... if that trade goes through.

Is that source legit tho? Seems like some rando

[Davidicus]

[Mr. Body]

BREAKING NEWS: no news

[Davidicus]

[exstatic]

Yeah, that’s not getting it done.

[mo7888]

What offers are starting to look like:

https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/174...315488165?s=20

The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal surrounding Dejounte Murray, sources tell
@jovanbuha
◻️ LAL receives: Dejounte Murray
◻️ ATL receives: D’Angelo Russell, Jalen Hood-Schifino, 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation

https://x.com/Kennyduhballern/status...024254193?s=20

Sources are telling me that the Knicks and Hawks have already verbally agreed on a deal to send Dejounte Murray to New York. The deal will involve Atlanta sending Murray, AJ Griffin, and a protected 2027 second round pick to New York in exchange for Evan Fournier, Quentin Grimes, and 2 unspecified first round picks and a 2024 second round pick. Atlanta is still gauging more offers which is why the deal hasn’t been made official just yet but right now the Knicks are far in the lead in the Dejounte Murray sweepstakes.

So, 2 1st's for Murray and Griffin....hmmm

[Leetonidas]

Hawks fans would riot at that return and Young would immediately demand a trade

[baseline bum]

Hawks fans would riot at that return and Young would immediately demand a trade

Not so sure after they didn't riot in response to the first Murray trade

[Dverde]

Why would you trade DJ for D’Angelo Russell…love to see the front office sell that one.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

"Additionally, Lowe says that the Spurs reached out to the Hawks to explore the possibility of a reversal of sorts to their 2022 Dejounte Murray deal, but those talks don’t appear to have gotten far."

Even a partial reversal of the old deal would have to be appealing and better than most offers but can they get past the optics of losing the first trade so badly and then trading him back at a discount?

[Tyronn Lue]

Exploratory interest in Victor would be nice.

[Davidicus]

"Additionally, Lowe says that the Spurs reached out to the Hawks to explore the possibility of a reversal of sorts to their 2022 Dejounte Murray deal, but those talks don’t appear to have gotten far."

Even a partial reversal of the old deal would have to be appealing and better than most offers but can they get past the optics of losing the first trade so badly and then trading him back at a discount?

This is straight from Zach Lowe's article vs playing telephone:

"The Hawks control their first-round pick this season, but future picks they owe San Antonio stand in the way of any multiseason tank job -- which is what a Young trade would likely entail. The Spurs reached out to Atlanta about Murray, sources said, pitching a sort of trade mulligan. Those talks don't appear to have gotten far; there are other Murray suitors."

This, and everything I've gathered from supposed insiders on the interwebs, makes me believe:

Hawks FO want to try building a roster around Trae that works for Quin Snyder, and in next 1-2 years if it doesn't pan out, and/or Trae get's pissed, they press the red button and send Trae back to SA for their picks for a proper rebuild.

Seems like they want certain players they think will fit into Quin's system, and as high as possible draft picks as currency. I'm guessing whatever combo offer we sent wasn't that good.

We will see in 1-2 years how it shakes out ...but seems very slim chance we do business with ATL by the trade deadline.

[Leetonidas]

Not so sure after they didn't riot in response to the first Murray trade

Because they foolishly thought they were getting a legit all star to pair with Young coughing up the picks they did which has completely ed their immediate future up and then turning around and trading the guy they got with it for peanuts would be beyond idiotic

[RC_Drunkford]

What offers are starting to look like:

https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/174...315488165?s=20

The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal surrounding Dejounte Murray, sources tell
@jovanbuha
◻️ LAL receives: Dejounte Murray
◻️ ATL receives: D’Angelo Russell, Jalen Hood-Schifino, 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation

https://x.com/Kennyduhballern/status...024254193?s=20

Sources are telling me that the Knicks and Hawks have already verbally agreed on a deal to send Dejounte Murray to New York. The deal will involve Atlanta sending Murray, AJ Griffin, and a protected 2027 second round pick to New York in exchange for Evan Fournier, Quentin Grimes, and 2 unspecified first round picks and a 2024 second round pick. Atlanta is still gauging more offers which is why the deal hasn’t been made official just yet but right now the Knicks are far in the lead in the Dejounte Murray sweepstakes.

why are you quoting a random twitter account from a TikToker named Kenny? I could do that too and tell you the Spurs are about to aquire Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird

[Davidicus]

why are you quoting a random twitter account from a TikToker named Kenny? I could do that too and tell you the Spurs are about to aquire Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird

He has sauses….jk. Hawks board have been reporting a trade like that for a few days now, so more or less the same. AJ Griffin would be new.

[Splits]

why are you quoting a random twitter account from a TikToker named Kenny? I could do that too and tell you the Spurs are about to aquire Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird

must be a political forum stalker and learned from htr in the Ukriane thread

[BatManu20]

Then he won't be a Buck. Hawks essentially gave up 3 FRP's for DJ, they're gonna be desperate to at least 2 FRP's back for him (unlikely), especially on his friendly long-term deal he just signed. Either way, that trade offer ain't gonna cut it.

[CGD]

^ I think all this theatre is to shake loose the last valuable FRP the LAL own, as well maybe Reeves.

[Seventyniner]

I bet at least some people in the Hawks FO would prefer to trade both Young and Murray if it can get them their 2025/2027 picks and 2026 swap back from the Spurs. That way they can do a proper tank job.

I would be very surprised if the Spurs would even consider undoing the Murray trade, i.e. giving back both picks and the swap. Murray wasn't worth that to begin with and he still isn't.

[RC_Drunkford]

I bet at least some people in the Hawks FO would prefer to trade both Young and Murray if it can get them their 2025/2027 picks and 2026 swap back from the Spurs. That way they can do a proper tank job.

I would be very surprised if the Spurs would even consider undoing the Murray trade, i.e. giving back both picks and the swap. Murray wasn't worth that to begin with and he still isn't.

no way do you give them all the picks back. They are asking for 2. When they traded for DJ he was an All-Star, led the NBA in steals and almost averaged a triple double. He doesn't have that value anymore.

[baseline bum]

I bet at least some people in the Hawks FO would prefer to trade both Young and Murray if it can get them their 2025/2027 picks and 2026 swap back from the Spurs. That way they can do a proper tank job.

I would be very surprised if the Spurs would even consider undoing the Murray trade, i.e. giving back both picks and the swap. Murray wasn't worth that to begin with and he still isn't.

If I get Trae WTF do I want Dejounte for though?

[exstatic]

If I get Trae WTF do I want Dejounte for though?

I think he meant trade DJ somewhere else, then trade Trae to us to get their picks back.

[BatManu20]

I bet at least some people in the Hawks FO would prefer to trade both Young and Murray if it can get them their 2025/2027 picks and 2026 swap back from the Spurs. That way they can do a proper tank job.

I would be very surprised if the Spurs would even consider undoing the Murray trade, i.e. giving back both picks and the swap. Murray wasn't worth that to begin with and he still isn't.

I don't even want Dejounte back at this rate tbh. I'm either Team Trae or Team draft a PG in the lottery this year. DJ would be too expensive to re-acquire for what he provides and while it'd be a nice story, there are just better directions for us to move in at this point.