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Rumor has it he got completely cleared to play by the Sonics doctors but that he doesn't want to play another game for them. So they might be looking to figure out a buyout soon.
Clean it up or I'm locking this thread.
Thanks.
there is one point about this.There is a player who I think will be traded at the deadline : Reggie Evans.
Denver needs to save some money after the AI trade and Evans is the best candidate for that : he has a quite big contract and he is Nuggets' 5th bigman (behind Camby, Nene, Najera and Kleiza).
like the Spurs the Nuggets are a little over the threshold (Spurs:66.7, Nuggets: 66.4), so whatever move they consider, they will try to save the money, that is necessary, to get under the (65.4 million) threshold. and the Nuggets know, that they have to do bigger moves to avoid to pay tons of laxtax in the future, they will try to do that in the summer.
and the other question will be, if the Nuggets want to trade with a Western team. they might rather ship him to a desperate Eastern team like the Nets, who's best rebounder happens to be their point guard.
Nuggets are slighty under the luxury tax with the Boykins trade and the fact that Melo salary is lower because of his suspension.
Only 4 teams are over the tax for the moment : Mavs, Knicks, Wolves and Spurs.
Mavs and knicks will stay over, Spurs will try to make a move to go under and For Minny, it will depend on Griffin case.
Nets don't have the expirings that Nuggets are looking for and they are too in Lux tax troubles : I'm not sure they are ready to take Evans salary. Rumor was that Nuggets have tried to find a third team in the AI trade to take Nene or Evans salary and that they have found nobody ready to take their contracts for expirings.
so, are the numbers on Hoopyhype not accurate, or are there so many contracts not counting for lux tax? I know there is the amnesty rule (that helps the Lakers and the Blazers), but is Philly really under the threshold?
another question:
if Spurs would get Evans, what role would he get in the rotation?
Evans can only play PF, so how could the rotation work?
Spurs would have at least one big, who would fall out of the regular rotation, if not two.
I assume, that Spurs would only trade for Evans and pay him his contract, if he plays 20-25 minutes.
who's minutes will he take?
move Tim to C and start Evans at PF?
or pair him with Horry as the second unit, with Rob playing center?
I'm thinking of this scenarios, because I can't see a tandem of Evans+Elson or Evans+Oberto or Bonner+Evans work well in the frontcourt.
Hoopshype isn't always accurate. About Denver : they are at least wrong on Nene who signed a $60M/6 years contract and not a $60M/5 years contract.
There are two main categories of players who don't count against the tax : amnesty rule players (it was a one time exception) and players retired for medical reasons (with a very strict rule). Philly has one amnesty rule player : Aaron Mckie and two player retired for medical reasons : Jamal Mashburn (knee) and Tod MacCulloch (disease).
thx for the information!
At this point if I were the Spurs I would take a gamble on any player that addresses a team weakness directly.
Danny Fortson included. And Reggie Evans I would take in a heartbeat. I think this team is too solid a unit to let one hot head like Fortson ruin everything. I think most players would respect the Spurs as a championship calibur team on and off the floor. They wouldn't ruin the team chemistry as easily as they might another team.
What I find interesting is that the Sonics in 2004-05 were not only a good team because they had Ray Allen and Rashard playing really well -- they were an excellent team because they simply had excellent offense and rebounding. Their defense might have been real horrible, but their rebounding really helped make them a playoff team. In the 2005-06 season Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis got BETTER on offense, and the team still suffered 17 additional losses from the previous season. True it wasn't solely because of the reduced Evans and Fortson play (they did lose Antonio Daniels as well) -- but it was still a huge factor.
One of those mega rebounders could easily make the Spurs an elite team again. It would definetely be worth the gamble.
Right now the Spurs look like a 53 win team and they need to either get some rebounders, or some sort of offensive minded player with athleticism and defensive talent.
the awful truth is, that the Spurs look like a 49 wins team, considering how the play since January. (the current pace would result in a below 50 wins season).
the shedule might help a bit, it doesn't look that tough (only one game to play against Mavs, Suns, Jazz, Rockets).
and can be said, that any quality player helps the Spurs, no matter what position and no matter, if he is a better offensive or defensive player.
(correction: any quality player, who is younger than 33)
too late to bring Scola right now,the FO shouldīve thought about it last summer.
Hopefully itīll happen this offseason.
Okay, I figured it out--here's the order of operations-
1) Trade either Elson/Oberto/Butler + Beno for a big with D and rebounding skills (a Udonis Haslem type, but obviously not him).
2) Look for a SF in the draft and in free agency to replace Bowen. Ideally, a SF who could also be a guard if called upon (replacing Beno as the 3rd Guard)
3) Trade Finley for a solid backup point guard to a team in a youth movement. This would probably be a more of an offseason move after the draft. And screw loyalty, it sends the message that if you don't produce in SA after two years then we'll trade your ass.
4) Sign Scola if we have any money left over.
Anyone know what our offseason resources will be? Late first round pick and an early 2nd round pick? Is that right? How about money to spend in FA?
The only money they will have to spend is the Mid-Level Exception - around $5M. They will have one first round pick and maybe two seconds....
Anyone know what our offseason resources will be? Late first round pick and an early 2nd round pick? Is that right? How about money to spend in FA?
Think it's AT LEAST two 2nd rounders and MAYBE a third. But either way, the picks are mid to late second round which is questionable if you're looking for contributors, especially in the short term.
From what I've read, our 1st round pick is tied to the Bucks. If that's the case, it shouldn't be half bad. Should be able to find some immediate talent there. The question is, does Pop have the balls to play young, untested talent?
Bring on Danny Fortson. Move Bruce to the bench and start Barry or Finley in Bruce's place.
No, their 1st rounder doesn't have anything to do with the Bucks.
Their first round pick is their own.
Then I belive they will have their own 2nd round pick. The 2nd round pick from the Bucks from the Markota. And they have a possibility of another 2nd round pick if the Bulls don't finish in the top 9 picks (? someone else can clarity that).
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 02-12-2007 at 12:25 PM.
The Spurs' first-rounder is their own. They also have their own second rounder and a Bucks second-rounder (better of theirs or another one they've got from another team). They also have the Bulls' second rounder if they're better than bottom 9 record....a.k.a. it's Top-9 Pick protected.
The Bulls 2nd is actually the opposite of Top-9 protected; if it ends up from 51-60, it belongs to the Spurs. Anywhere else in the round, I believe it belongs to Portland.
That said, I've only seen this in one place and other draft sites don't have it, so I'm not sure it's correct.
Johnny Ludden has too said in one of his article that Spurs could get 3 second round picks in 07.
Edit : http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.1375805.html
Last edited by Bruno; 02-12-2007 at 01:32 PM. Reason: Link added
... but we're not sure if he's only getting it from this site.
Be awesome if they can get an extra second rounder. I think it's true, but not sure.
It's well known that Ludden isn't close at all to Spurs FO and can't get any info from them.
ahh I see....well that's re ed, but a pick is a pick I guess.
*shrugs*
It's well known that Ludden isn't close at all to Spurs FO and can't get any info from them.
having 3 second rounders and and their own 1st is grea- However if retained it is unlikely to be of immediate help. Even the great so- called missies of 03 Barbosa nad Howard took a year or two to blossom. This team needs help now or very soon.
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