If we got the exact same back from say the Bobcats, i wouldnt care half as much ya know. As long as theres a chance there with Houston, that they be something, then its a stupid trade in my book.
Do you really freaking think Scola or Butler are the difference in us winning or losing a le? Especially this season? I want ya'll to tell me what indicates to you that Pop is even going to play them...
Cheez...put the crack pipe down. You guys act like we just traded Jordan.
Scola couldn't even win in Europe...and that was without the choking albatross of T(lottery, 21 game losing streak, worst record in the NBA, can't even get out of the first round as often as Garnett)Mac holding him down.
If we got the exact same back from say the Bobcats, i wouldnt care half as much ya know. As long as theres a chance there with Houston, that they be something, then its a stupid trade in my book.
As a DUKE fan, I read the headline "Spurs send Scola & Butler to Houston" and instantly thought.... Battier!!!! Needless to say I read further to see Spann ingnolisis...
All the talk of Scola & Butler's value individually, and then to receive sooo little,
People are overrating the financial aspect of this trade.
The reason why Spurs haven't signed Scola this summer or last summer isn't money, it's because they think he sucks. Had Spurs like Scola, they would have given him $9M/3 years this summer isntead of spending them on Bonner.
The reason why Spurs have dumped Butler is because they think he is think he sucks. Spurs could have dumped another player to save money.
That assumes that there is another team that wants the contract that can be dumped, namely, Barry and Beno. Beno already has low-value (and thus, little to no offers) and the FO is attached to both Barry and Beno, not to mention adament about returning with the same group.
In the end, the only real people they could dump were those that didn't play in the run. Every day since the championship the paper has had a quote about "keeping the team that won it".
Who else would (not could) this front office trade to dump salary?
To me Scola and Butler are the same player...offensive guys that don't do much else...they play different styles of ball...but they are basically the same type of player.
And the Spurs have a pretty damn good offensive bigman already...
Yes.
Sincerely,
Josh Howard
Tell you what...you guys can keep listing all the ones that got away...
And I am going to list 3 les in 5 years....
Could have been more?
Only one or two teams in NBA history have ever done better in a 5 year period....i
Some people need to readjust their priorities...the ring is the thing. Not hoarding bigmen.
It's Mahinmimi and Splitter now...
Oberto and Elson worked just fine last season, and will again for this season, they were never the problem this season.
That's fine, but why send them to a divison rival team, especially one that made the playoffs this season? That makes no sense. They would have been better off wasted for nothing than sent to a division rival. I truly do hope they both suck now. I hope so.
This Spurs management seems to be running the team like they plan on jumping ship when Duncan is gone. Get what you can now and jump ship with the les when it goes down.
Dumping Beno shouldn't be really harder than dumping Butler.
And there is a reason why Barry and Elson were in the rotation and Butler wasn't. Spurs like them more.
Another statment made by TPark which never realy fits into description of a statment
If Spurs FO has chosen to bring Elson, Butler and re-signing Bonner over bringing Scola, there is a reason. The most likely reason is that they think he won't be a good nba player.
If Spurs FO has tried to trade Butler since the deadline, there is a reason. The most likely reason is that they think he won't be a good nba player.
So if you think that Scola and Butler are scrubs, you don't really care where you send them because they won't be able to help the other team.
Spurs never had Josh Howard and gave up on him...some elements of the Spurs brass wanted Howard and others didn't...
Pretty sure that it's the same elements that wanted Howard that were willing to say goodbye to Jackie and Luis...
If Pop had wanted Jackie...he'd still be here. Make no mistake about it. And Scola never wanted to be a Spur...not from the night he was drafted. I am glad the Spurs didn't try to placate this bag and I am going to enjoy watching Oberto and Manu whup his ass.
It's an Argie thing now...and we got the better two. Manu and Oberto aren't going to let Luis' team beat us...
Not to mention Duncan...you guys really sweating the Rockets player that plays the same position as Duncan? I'm not.
i'm just now reading all of this news.
What
The
?
Obviously I'm dreaming and this is a nightmare.
Yes and Janet Reno will have some sex with you soon.
What a pointless ing response.
Josh Howard hasn't won , so how can you say he was any kind of missing piece?
Go back to Clutch Fans, dolt.
That wreaks of egomania. You don't take that chance. You may not think they'll be anything, but you'll look like a giant ass if they do - and then you've given yourself up as a target to beat out in the division. You basically called them trash and placed them in one of the best potential places to stuff it right back in your face. That's just stupid.
First of all dumping Butler was much easier than dumping Beno. They have been trying to dump Beno for 2 years and no one takes him for a dirty gym sock. Secondly, it's not as simply as "liking them more." There's other factors.
First of all, no one wants Elson. He's 31 years old and isn't going to get better than a 5/5 guy who can't figure out how to guard anyone. So he's much harder to move than a 21 year old that most GMs in the league think has potential.
The Spurs obviously think Mahinmi has more potential than Butler. But it's not a matter of that they "like" everyone else on their roster better than Butler. That's a ridiculous way to think.
The Spurs tried damn hard to trade them to the East - they didn't want to trade them to the West. So obviously they think that Scola/Butler can do something in this league - or they wouldn't have cared so much about not trading them to the West.
It's only the beginning
I don't understand how whottt is twisting the fact that the Spurs gave two bigman away for free to a divisional rival into a take that Duncan > Scola and Butler. Yeah, way to go out on a limb with that take.
The Spurs didn't really need Manu in 2003. They should have traded him to Dallas for a second round pick.
And yesterday Bruno said that the least he'd want the Spurs to accept for Scola is either a first round pick or a good small forward prospect. Bruno also yesterday said Butler > 2nd round pick.
Now the Spurs trade Scola and Butler for a bad second round pick and he's rationalizing it. Stick with your guns.
Pop must be bored and simply wants a challenge.
Bravo, Pop.
Pop wanted others more...not the same thing. Surely you get this?
Never mind...
I'll let you, Spurs Dynasty, TPark, and that that just compared Jackie Butler to Josh Howard commiserate....
S'really much ado about nothing though if you ask me.
Scola and Bulter weren't going to play this year...
Honestly, if you transpose 1st round with 2nd round it still seems pretty damn weighed in the Rockets favor.
How is it that you don't make them give you a first rounder? How on earth do you settle for the 2nd rounder?
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