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L. Scola
Points: 18
Reb: 9
Ast: 0
Stl: 0
Blk: 0
Against Pistons with Yao an TMAC out
Damn, a PF played PF and Center at times big ing deal. You know Duncan he plays power forward and center at times, Matt Bonner even started at Center.looks like you and candyass76 and others are sharing Scolas' nuts.
L. Scola
Points: 18
Reb: 9
Ast: 0
Stl: 0
Blk: 0
Against Pistons with Yao an TMAC out
Alright, now they can get rid of both Yao and McGrady!
Kick ass. How much did they win by?
What? Still no Spurs Dynasty 21 appearance? I'm in shock...
It's lame that the Scola fans can't seem to find the time to show up for the 2 weeks Scola sucked but the second he has a good game...here they are.
So far he's had more bad games than good ones...and even his good ones have been tainted by a failure to win. What is it...one win in a game he's played well in? Or is it now 2?
New to the NBA excuse doesn't hold water...see, we're competing for a championship, this season...not next season. We've got bigger priorities than developing future back up PFs.
And new to the NBA also doesn't hold water in several other categories...there are a lot of rookies with far less polished games, with far less experience, and who are far younger, having a bigger impact, on both worse, and better teams this season.
In conclusions....it's not that big of a deal we traded him..we have several players that can bring what he brings to the team, and sometimes more than what is needed.
And I know you guys are going to say well...he's better than Elson, well Elson is on this team because he's got athleticism that enables him to do a variety of things that can impact a game in ways that Scola can't...plus he's familiar with the system.
If we want a guy to impact a game the way Scola does...we already have one, his name is Oberto, and he's familiar with the system.
Scola's rebounding has been better than advertised, and IMO, he looks like he has NBA role playing potential, and sure it would have been cool to have key components of the Argie National team added to the Spurs, with Manu here to bring out their best...but I'd have valued what Nocioni has to offer much more...and Scola's not the key player you guys claimed he was, he is taking time to adjust to the NBA, and his skill set was not a huge need for this team. Add to that the fact that there, WAS DEFINITELY, bad blood between Scola and the Spurs(funny that Oberto and Manu don't have that same issues), and this trade is not the huge ordeal the Scola fans painted it to be.
In summary...Scola's better than I thought he was as an NBA talent, possibly, and he's not as good as you guys thought he was...as an NBA talent. Ergo...this is Giricek part 2. And I'd rather have Oberto...and you guys can't pullt he Bonner card with the way he's played lately either...Elson has a different skill set than all 3...he's more inconsistent than those guys...but he's the athlete they aren't...and that's where his value lies.
18 is 9 could be impressive but it's way less impressive when you realize that eh scored 12 points and grab 6 rebounds during the last quarter that was garbage time.
I've watched the first 3 quarters and Scola was average at best. His defense, especially the P&R defense, was bad. His rebounding wasn't good too. On the offensive end, he finished well around the basket but didn't hit his midrange jumper.
I saw the game too,and He didn't play as poorly as you pretend to show here. Yes He scored in the 4 rd quarter some of his 18 pts(8/11 FG)and grabed some of his 9 boards too.
But the guy played solid team ball,setting screems for his teammates and always looking for the right spot to get an easy basket.
But yes,He needs a litle more time to get used to the Difensive rotations.
So far,He's doing just like all the Argies did in their roockie seasons. Not bad considering that Manu ,Chapu and Fabri are key players in their teams right now.
I've never that he has played poorly. I've said that he was average at best. Scola did some good things in this game.
After looking at the stats :
Scola in the first 3 quarters : 6 points and 2 rebounds in 12.42 min.
Scola in the last quarter : 12 points and 7 rebounds in 12min.
And the last quarter was garbage time.
First, a guy who plays bad Defense doesn't played solid team ball.
Second, I doubt that you have watched the game. Scola has set very few screens in this game and the fact that he was bad on the defensive end has nothing to do with defensive rotations. Scola was just horrible at defending the P&R because he let his man wide open or didn't roll with him to the basket.
What a strange reasoning. You are basically saying that Scola not being good now means that he will be good later.
Scola is a very average rookie for the moment. It's too soon to give up on him and put him in the bust category but he hasn't shown enough things to come at the conclusion that Spurs have made a mistake by trading him.
At the question "Will Scola be a good nba player ?", the only answer that make sense is : maybe. If your answer is Yes or No to this question, you are either a hater or a homer.
Last edited by Bruno; 12-24-2007 at 10:53 AM. Reason: typos
Apparently nobody take care that seriously
Nobody is giving up on Scola,all the opposite actually, going by his roockie numbers He's actually doing better tham most the Argies did in their Roockie seasons.
And also taking in consideration that Adleman is not giving him consistently the same amounts of minutes,coze He's playing 15/18 mins and 25/28 when Yao gets in foul troubles.
Bottom line is:when given minutes and touches Scola has shown He can be a decent low post option and his rebounding is even better tham it used to be in Eurolegue.
dude is older then most of his arge fellow players
playing 15-18 minutes is a decent amount of time
it is not like he is only getting 5 minutes a night and can not find his grove
Actually Oberto was Older tham him(Scola) when He got to the NBA.
Haters give up on him and call him a scrub after one bad game. It's the same thing with homers who call him a great player after one good game.
Scola get very consistent playing time for a rookie. He has the luck to be on a team with a very thin frontcourt.
In all the games I've seen, Scola wasn't a low post threat at all. Even when Yao is out, Scola didn't play a lot in the low post. And Scola is an average nba rebounder like Oberto or Elson.
He's been rebounding at a higher rate tham what he used to in the Eurolegue. The thing is that He's playing a litle bit farther from the paint and the basket in Houston tham in Tau,that's why He is using his jumper more tham his low post moves.
Now,when Yao gets in foul troubles or is getting some rest and Luis plays the Center,or just a bit closer to the basket,he's been able to grab some offensive boards(like vs the Bulls) and some low post pts.
Scola is rebounding slightly more in nba than in Euroleague. The increase is the same than for Oberto between the nba and the Euroleague/acb. Scola is, so far, an average nba rebounder by grabbing 1 rebounds per 4 min.
Even when Yao was out, I haven't seen Scola doing a lot of post move. Scola plays way less in the post than in Europe even when he plays center. Maybe it's because Adelman doesn't want to see him the post or maybe it's because he struggles to score in the post against long and athletic nba players.
And I'm not sure that playing Scola or Hayes at center is a good thing for Rockets because it weakens their interior defense.
Adelman's system have failed so far,so I wouldn't blame Scola for not playing near the Basket in order to use some low post moves.
I'll give Scola some credit on that.
As far as rebounding goes, The farther you play from the basket the less chances you get to grab a rebound.
If this Houston team finds it iden y with Adelman's system they might be able to get to the playoffs,but if they keep playing like they are right now, They'll fail.
They need a PG,and It wouldn't surprise me if they make an offer for Beno.
It's true on the offensive end but on the defensive end, you play where your opponent is.
And Scola is a better offensive rebounder than defensive rebounder. He is 48th in the nba for offensive rebounds and 99th for defensive rebounds.
Scola being an average rebounder is mainly because it's what he is.
And Scola being an average rebounder isn't the end of the world. Rebounding isn't his main strength and it's still a very good thing for him not to be a bad rebounder the nba level.
that's true,but I'd love him to put up 15/20 lbs. in order to set possitions better and don't get pussed away by other NBA bigs when trying to get a board.
I think that's something the Rockets will have to work on for next season,in order to get him a litle heavier and stronger.
Otherwise he'll only rely in his low post moves and mid range jumpers.
If he can manage to be at 7/8 rpg in 30 mpg next season, it will be a huge improvement for him.
I think Sheed hates Scola more than anyone else in the league. He was doggin on his ass all game. Screaming at him and laughing at him all game... It was quite funny...
Why is this thread still up here?
Liviing in Houston, I watch the Rockets off and on. In every game I spot the same thing.
1.Scola runs his ass off down the floor with some others on a fast break.
2. He gets into an open spot, sometimes within the box
3. The other Rockets freeze him out and pass to another player, sometimes one who is covered and/or on the perimeter.
Maybe it's because he's a rookie, but If I was Scola, I'd be pissed. Not because of the stats but because that isn't good basketball. You reward a guy for running the floor and getting open.
I'm not a big Scola booster or a hater. We did what the FO thought we needed to do and what's done is done, but the Rockets aren't using him to the maximum either.
the most sensible thing posted in this entire thread, congratulations!
The Rockets players never like passing to white guys. That's why Yao was so tired during the first couple of years of his career. He'd fight for 20 seconds getting post position and then fight for rebounding position after Francis or Mobley jacked up a shot.
It didn't really require a response, since they got their asses kicked.Apparently nobody take care that seriously
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