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    it is much important to bring splitter, he can be a good answer for gasol/bynum
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    I'm hearing Splitter and Manu have the same agent. That makes this whole thing suck even more. The Spurs must have gotten assurances from the agent that Splitter was coming over when they drafted him. Now that same agent is working on getting Splitter the big contract with Tau.

    If anyone should know about taking small up front money and then cashing in, it should be Manu's agent.
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    Makes you wonder if the Spurs should call up Manu and get him to see if he can work some magic.
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    You know what... After the Rockets got Scola's rights, they went after him and they got it done. No excuses, no drama, no what ifs... Why can't our FO do the same?
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    I don't know what you want the FO to do other than sign him to his SET pay scale, which you guys are failing to understand...
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    You know what... After the Rockets got Scola's rights, they went after him and they got it done. No excuses, no drama, no what ifs... Why can't our FO do the same?
    The Spurs were either fibbing about or didn't understand/believe Scola's contract demands (much less than they publicly claimed). There's mounting evidence they've had their head up their asses for a while, starting with screwing up Nocioni's birth date.
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    I don't know what you want the FO to do other than sign him to his SET pay scale, which you guys are failing to understand...
    It's not the money... it's giving assurances he's going to be an integral part of the team... that he won't be sitting at the end of the bench all year... that he won't be playing for the Toros...
    But this FO... specifically Pop, won't do that. You know that, I know that.
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    I'm hearing Splitter and Manu have the same agent. That makes this whole thing suck even more. The Spurs must have gotten assurances from the agent that Splitter was coming over when they drafted him. Now that same agent is working on getting Splitter the big contract with Tau.

    If anyone should know about taking small up front money and then cashing in, it should be Manu's agent.
    In fact, Splitter has two agents : one for the NBA and one for the Europe.
    His NBA agent is the same than Manu's one but I guess that the contract negotiation with Tau are done with his European agent.

    It was the same thing for Scola. In 2006, Scola's European agent was saying that Scola was Spurs' slave and Spurs were saying that they were negotiating only with his American agent.
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    Theres the first problem.

    Too many damn agents.
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    It's not the money... it's giving assurances he's going to be an integral part of the team... that he won't be sitting at the end of the bench all year... that he won't be playing for the Toros...
    But this FO... specifically Pop, won't do that. You know that, I know that.

    You can tell him hes going to be integral.

    If he earns it. Pop never has and never will just HAND minutes to a player.
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    It's not the money... it's giving assurances he's going to be an integral part of the team... that he won't be sitting at the end of the bench all year... that he won't be playing for the Toros...
    But this FO... specifically Pop, won't do that. You know that, I know that.
    Yeah, I think you have to prove/assure him he will be starting or play significant minutes. The Spurs can't do that.
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    Honestly, should you?

    I mean if you promise him starting or huge minutes, and he plays horrible and you have Mahinmi playing better, wouldn't you have a cluster on your hands?
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    Then it's not an issue of agents or money. The question the Spurs have to ask themselves is, how much do we want this guy? If you're not willing to give him some degree of assurances, then he will just stay in Europe.
    If that's what you're going to do, might as well trade his rights and be done with him.
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    Honestly, should you?

    I mean if you promise him starting or huge minutes, and he plays horrible and you have Mahinmi playing better, wouldn't you have a cluster on your hands?
    You would have a cluster . Plus you know he's going to suck at the very least for the first half of the season. He'll get rookie calls, he needs to learn the system, he has to get rid of Euro habits like the 3 steps. I see him as another Scola. Actually, a little less skilled but more athletic than Scola.
    The thing is, you either get him on the program now, or you just forget about him. Our big 3 can't wait two years to see what happens. It's Scola all over again.
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    Theres the first problem.

    Too many damn agents.
    Not everybody can be a nba agent. You had to get a certification to be one. Most Euro agents haven't this certification and that's why the player has two agents.
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    The Spurs' failure to play younger players this year - especially Mahinmi - bites them in the ass again. Splitter doesn't want to play in the NBDL, I'm sure.
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    You know what... After the Rockets got Scola's rights, they went after him and they got it done. No excuses, no drama, no what ifs... Why can't our FO do the same?
    R.C. Buford built his reputation on Sam Presti's accomplishments, that's why.
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    R.C. Buford built his reputation on Sam Presti's accomplishments, that's why.
    Yes. I'm not sure Buford is very good.
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    R.C. Buford built his reputation on Sam Presti's accomplishments, that's why.
    Yeah Sergie Karaulov has really propped RC Buford up.

    That Tony Parker guy was found by RC...
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    The Spurs' failure to play younger players this year - especially Mahinmi - bites them in the ass again. Splitter doesn't want to play in the NBDL, I'm sure.

    Yeah mahinmi getting 15 minutes a night and against the Lakers is the sole reason the Spurs lost.

    Genius
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    from Splitter's perspective having two teams to play off of each other is golden.
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    Not everybody can be a nba agent. You had to get a certification to be one. Most Euro agents haven't this certification and that's why the player has two agents.
    It was more of a joke.

    The euro agent though screwed up the Scola situation a bit, and the euro agent seems to be doing the same here.
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    R.C. Buford built his reputation on Sam Presti's accomplishments, that's why.
    Well, Ginobili was RC's pick. Presti did the diligence on Parker, but I think it was RC who went to bat for picking Tony with Pop.
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    It was more of a joke.

    The euro agent though screwed up the Scola situation a bit, and the euro agent seems to be doing the same here.
    This is where I see the fallacy... The euro agent screwed up the Scola situation when we had his rights, but didn't when we traded his rights to the Rockets? Didn't the Rockets had the same limitations that we did to sign him?
    How in the they got it flat out done and we didn't?
    Now I'm looking at Splitter and see the same exact happening again.
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    Yeah mahinmi getting 15 minutes a night and against the Lakers is the sole reason the Spurs lost.

    Genius
    I hate how I have to translate normal english into 'T Park Gerber food'. The point is, Splitter sees how Mahinmi was relegated all year to the NBDL. As a rookie he should expect the same: as a baseline he will also be in the NBDL all year, as the team rather does that than find time for their young players, making his decision to stick with greater playing time (as well as greater money) all that much easier. Not saying Mahinmi should have played in the NBA but that history is a guide.

    Capice?
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