Signing Kwame would be as stupid as trading for Darko. Kurt Thomas would be a great fit, so would be Miller but I'd hate to give up Elson, Barry, Finley, Bonner and Vaugn just to get 2 players back. Barry + Elson + Pick for Thomas would be the better trade. But Seattle is looking for Cap-Space this summer and Thomas contract is coming off the books so they will not trade him. Acquiring Miller for Barry + Elson could work. Grizzlies get another 8 Million in cap relief this summer and the Spurs get a consistent 3pt Shooter and Role-Player. On the other hand it would totally screw up our chances on the FA market. We will not get anyone big this summer but we can add several role players for less money. I'd rather trade Vaughn + Second Rounder for Hakim Warrick.
um, both barry and elson are also expiring this summer, so seattle would be swapping ~8 mil in expirings for ~8 mil in expirings.
actually, it doesnt. the spurs dont have any cap space this summer right now. all they have is the MLE and other exceptions. acquiring miller doesnt change that.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
And what does it say of the Grizzlies? Well, it says that they’re bleeding financial losses, desperate to strip payroll and make themselves more attractive for a potential buyer. They’re shopping guard Mike Miller throughout the league too, sources say, and it’s just a matter of time until they’ve stripped themselves to the core. Essentially, they’re the Vancouver Grizzlies again.
A trade like Barry + Elson + first round pick for Mike Miller could make a lot of sense for both teams.
Grizzlies get expiring contracts and a first round pick that will help them to rebuild their team.
Spurs get a talented swingman. Miller contract expire in 2010 which perfectly match with the 2010 cap space plan. This trade also allow Spurs to get under the luxury tax this year.
Spurs will be quite thin at the PF/C spot after this trade but they will be far enough bellow the luxury tax to sign a FA PF/C for the rest of the season without going over the threshold. For the moment, the only quality PF/C available is PJ Brown but some others could be bought out by their team after the trade deadline.
i dunno how tall miller is
but he can probably play small ball...
Darko at C would confirm a le
If the Grizz are truly stupid enough to get rid of Mike Miller (they were stupid enough to get rid of Pau for scraps), then the Spurs should make haste to get him. If they were after Kyle Korver, they sure as should go after Miller, who's much better.
But Miller doesn't have playoff experience. (tongue in cheek).
That's just idiotic - (I know you're not the one saying it). Those Memphis teams got reamed in the playoffs because they played much more advanced teams. Mike Miller isn't a #1 or great #2 player, but as a #3 or #4 he'd be deadly. How many clutch shots has he hit against the Spurs alone?
lol i know I agree with you. Plus clutch shots come with opportunity. Your going to miss some I don't care what player you are. Like with Horry when you play 17 years and go to the playoffs every year, your going to have a lot of opportunities in your career to hit some clutch shots. Thank god one of them went down in 05' unlike 03' 04' and 06'.
If Grizzlies are shopping around Mike Miller there's only two teams that would realistically offer them expiring contracts. Thats the Miami Heat and the Spurs. I doubt Miami would include a first round pick with their current position in the lottery ( then again maybe they would). The Spurs have given up 2 first rounders before for Nazr Mohammed out of all people, that shows you what they think of late first round picks, with that I think Memphis could get a 1st rounder out of a deal with the Spurs before the Heat and get 8.3 million in extra cap relief for next year.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-02-2008 at 11:43 AM.
It can't be true that only two teams can offer expirings for Miller, can it?
I'd trade Barry+Elson+'a vague shot at Brandon Rush' for Mike Miller in a heartbeat.
Atlanta could but think about it. Do you really think Atlanta wants to add 8.3 million to a position they are stacked at with Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, and Josh Childress. Plus Josh Smith is about to get to get paid next year. I highly doubt Atlanta would like to add a player who would cut into those players minutes for 8.3 million the next 2 years.
Orlando could but they have over 23 + million a year tied up with Turkoglu and Lewis which play the same position. Plus with Howard and Nelson's contracts about to kick in. I doubt they want to add 8.3 for a player that plays is identical to Turkoglu and Lewis. If I were Orlando I'd look for a 2 guard that could put it on the floor and create or another big man that could help Howard inside with that 8.3 million.
Seattle could but again I really doubt they want to add Miller and his 8.3 million because they are in rebuilding mode, and he plays the same position as Durant and Jeff Green. They also have Wally at the same position who gets 13 million next year.
Spurs, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, and the Sonics are the teams that could give Memphis expiring contracts.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-02-2008 at 11:56 AM.
Barry and Elson for Juan Carlos and Darko works
Pull that trigger.
For some odd reason, I have a feeling Darko would never figure out the Spurs system.
Elson hasn't either but Darko rebounds better and plays better D. Juan Carlos has an in between game to go along with his outside touch. Plus Darko only has two years left on his contract or could used in a trade next year.
I rather Spurs make one of the two trades: Barry Elson Pick for Kurt Thomas
or Barry Elson 1st rounder for Mike Miller
One of the two
Memphis is not going to trade Miller cause his contract really isnt that bad at 9 mil and still has 2 more years at that price...Plus, 1 gator is bad enough and 2, well
The question is why would Seattle do a trade which does not help them.
And on the cap space: Got me there, thanks for the update
Trade for Miller and he'll just be a shorter version of Turkoglu...
Hedo could rebound and play defense, though. Miller is a one trick pony, and his next defensive stop would be his first. Kobe might break that 81 matched up with Miller.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
Yahoo! reports that Memphis is shopping Mike Miller hot and heavy and intends to strip the team to the core--I'm not sure if the Spurs wouldn't be better served to move for a big, but if you can get Mike Miller for pennies on the dollar, you do it.
The Spurs should also look at Hakim Warrick, Kyle Lowry, and Juan Carlos Navarro. If they're dirt cheap, why not think about it?
And no to Darko. I'd rather take back Gadzuric's bloated contract to get Villanueva. We could at least move Gadzuric in the future--Darko is now a human franchise noose.
The Blazers are also shopping half their team--Outlaw, Jack, Frye, Webster, Sergio, Pryzbilla. Anyone of those guys are worth a phone call. If we could get Outlaw for an expiring deal and a #1, why wouldn't we? Two days ago, I would have scoffed at the idea, but after this Gasol nonsense who knows.
I don't think they're moving Outlaw. He's been comming up big for them lately.
You can bet your ass that the line of suitors for Miller is longer than it was for Pau. Miller is the kind of player that can fit right in on just about any team. Everyone would love to have him.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgnsAnd what does it say of the Grizzlies? Well, it says that they’re bleeding financial losses, desperate to strip payroll and make themselves more attractive for a potential buyer. They’re shopping guard Mike Miller throughout the league too, sources say, and it’s just a matter of time until they’ve stripped themselves to the core. Essentially, they’re the Vancouver Grizzlies again.
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