Spurs facing another non-sellout

[ChumpDumper]

Since when is the WCF not reason enough to sell out?

[MannyIsGod]

So spurfans are buying that myth now?

You don't think the vast majority of Spurs fans are casual fans who take whatever the media says as gospel? I do. I think that Spurs fans have bought into that this team is boring.

But I'll come clean here. I anticipate that while ticketmaster probably had something to do with the first game not selling out (if the 2nd one doesn't sell out - someone should die in the front office) but I also think that this series doesn't have much appeal.

All you have heard was about how the 2nd round was the real NBA finals and in the least it was the real WCF. I think Utah is a good team, but I also feel this isn't truely a marquee matchup but rather a forality that is before the Spurs play the Finals. That may be a horrible assumption to make, but it is what it is and I think that most Spurs fans feel the same way.

The NBA needs to fix their brackets (again) and make sure the 2 highest seeded teams meet in the WCF. This year with Dallas losing in the first you were screwed out of seeing the matchup everyone wanted in the WCF but you got it (again) in the 2nd round. It is almost like the playoffs peaked too soon.

So yeah, I think that Spurs fans are bored with this series. But thats probably a big fault of the Spurs PR machine too. They should be stepping things up right now and as far as I can see they are fairly nonexisitant outside of some EN fan guilt triping.

The attendence has suffered all year. The Spurs really should take a look at what they are doing (or not doing) and fix it. In the end its their responsibility to make sure those seats are filled.

[TheWriter]

Wow, look at all the hysteria. It's jaw dropping.

"I don't know if the Spurs can survive here."

Blah blah.

All because 300 tickets weren't sold to see the Jazz in the WCF.

The demand isn't there simply because there is no story. This is a first round series not the WCF. You get a massive burn out playing Denver than Phoenix and then... the Jazz. Who's the star there? Boozer? Williams? That's not going to sell, esp. on a Sunday afternoon.

More than likely those 1,000 tickets will be bought between now and game time.

But you're asking people to pay WCF prices for a first round series. The Jazz are not a serious rivial, the WCF is for the best of the best, and the Jazz just got here because the Warriors matched up better than the Mavs. This series should be either SA and Suns or SA and Mavs not the Jazz. Atleast not the Jazz of now.

I'm pretty sure traffic wasn't as high here after the game as it was after a Spurs-Suns WCSF game.

[MannyIsGod]

Since when is the WCF not reason enough to sell out?

Since the real WCF was played in the 2nd round and you're playing a fourth seed in the WCF and the team doesn't do a good job promoting it?

[ChumpDumper]

You don't think the vast majority of Spurs fans are casual fans who take whatever the media says as gospel? I do. I think that Spurs fans have bought into that this team is boring.

Now? After ten years of the same label? What pushed them over the edge?

So yeah, I think that Spurs fans are bored with this series. But thats probably a big fault of the Spurs PR machine too. They should be stepping things up right now and as far as I can see they are fairly nonexisitant outside of some EN fan guilt triping.

Stepping up how?

[Obstructed_View]

Since when is the WCF not reason enough to sell out?

It is for me, but that's easy for me to say from Dallas without enough money to afford a ticket anyway.

My point is, if I'm the Spurs, I buy up the last of the tickets and hand them out on the street before I let the game show up as a non-sellout. I don't care about the reason why as much as I care about making sure it doesn't happen.

[ChumpDumper]

Since the real WCF was played in the 2nd round and you're playing a fourth seed in the WCF and the team doesn't do a good job promoting it?

Why does it have to be promoted more than usual? spurfans only want to go see a WCF if the matchup is right?

Has it really come to this?

[milkyway21]

hey San Antonio can we just e mail Stern and suggest game 5 will be played in Manila?

i am sure the tickets will be sold out in just 30 seconds
I will be sitting in front and make a big sign "SPURSTALK SPURS FAN IN THE HOUSE". what do you think?

[TheWriter]

Since when is the WCF not reason enough to sell out?

Can we about not selling out if after tomorrows game is not a sell out. One Sunday game after the whirlwind of a series with Phoenix, 300 tickets don't get sold and people here want to hang the villagers.

[MannyIsGod]

Now? After ten years of the same label? What pushed them over the edge?Stepping up how?

I'm not in PR and advertising so I don't know what they need to do, but the bottom line is if your product isn't selling you better do something about it.

[MannyIsGod]

Why does it have to be promoted more than usual? spurfans only want to go see a WCF if the matchup is right?

Has it really come to this?

Why does McDonalds advertise? Why does Coke advertise? You think once you get big you stop promoting? You're out of your mind if you believe that.

[TheWriter]

Why does it have to be promoted more than usual? spurfans only want to go see a WCF if the matchup is right?

Has it really come to this?

Come down off your high horse. Is your ass going tomorrow? Did you buy a ticket?

[Kori Ellis]

Can we about not selling out if after tomorrows game is not a sell out. One Sunday game after the whirlwind of a series with Phoenix, 300 tickets don't get sold and people here want to hang the villagers.

Well it was a lot more than 300 empty seats. Tons of tickets were on the streets, with brokers, and didn't get sold on ticket exchange.

We'll see if it's better tomorrow.

[MannyIsGod]

Come down off your high horse. Is your ass going tomorrow? Did you buy a ticket?

You beat me to it.

Will you be there tomorrow Chump?

[ChumpDumper]

Why does McDonalds advertise? Why does Coke advertise? You think once you get big you stop promoting? You're out of your mind if you believe that.

Do spurfans not know there is a game on?

[ChumpDumper]

You beat me to it.

Will you be there tomorrow Chump?

I didn't plan tickets being available.

Chances are pretty good if I can get out of work, which shouldn't be difficult.

[TheWriter]

Well it was a lot more than 300 empty seats. Tons of tickets were on the streets, with brokers, and didn't get sold on ticket exchange.

We'll see if it's better tomorrow.

But that's what's in the paper, 300 tickets and the hits the fans.

I'm a die hard Spurs fan, and I don't think even if I was offered tickets to the game for free that I'd want to go. I watch every game, every game on tv, I'm simply not the type to go to a game. The last game I went to was the SBC opener in 2002 against Toronto. That was almost 5 years ago.

[MannyIsGod]

I didn't plan tickets being available.

Chances are pretty good if I can get out of work, which shouldn't be difficult.

Didn't you know there was going to be a Game 2 last week after we beat the Suns?

[Kori Ellis]

But that's what's in the paper, 300 tickets and the hits the fans.

I'm a die hard Spurs fan, and I don't think even if I was offered tickets to the game for free, I'd want to go. I watch every game, every game on tv, I'm simply not the type to go to a game. The last game I went to was the SBC opener in 2002 against Toronto. That was neight 5 years ago.

I understand that there's people like you. But I still don't see what changed from 2 years ago when you couldn't find playoff tickets to now, when people can't give them away. The only thing I know that changed is some fans enthusiasm for the playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, if spurfans are concerned about what the media thinks, get ready to be beat about the head with this for a long time. You can blame the Spurs if you want -- the media won't.

[sabar]

Well as for me, I prefer to watch from home instead of from the corners where my vision is too blurred to see the action.

Prices are reasonable, that's no excuse.

Frankly, I think people just don't care about the Jazz. They haven't gotten near the media attention that GS/Mavs/Denver/Suns have. And lets not kid ourselves, a lot of the people that go there are casual fans that get their perceptions from the media, the paper, ESPN. Sure, everyone here knows how good the Jazz are, but the casual fan?

Nope. Utah is near the bottom on the NBA "notability" scale.

[MannyIsGod]

Do spurfans not know there is a game on?

Do people not knwo about McDonalds and Coke?

Are you going to present a real argument here or are you going to continue asking silly and pointless rhetorical questions?

Don't answer; I already know the answer to my own silly and pointless rhetorical question.

[TheWriter]

Year in and year out the Spurs have the highest or some of the highest tv ratings per market in the NBA. I'd bet merchandise sells are big too, yet all that and one Sunday after noon game isn't sold out by 300 and Spurs fans arfe pathetic, the city can't support them in the long run, etc, etc.

, this alarmist at ude isn't just for after a loss is it?

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't you know there was going to be a Game 2 last week after we beat the Suns?

I was scheduled to work. Now that you San Antonians have proven yourselves unwilling to go to a WCF game on a weekend, is it time to call in the reserves?

[ChumpDumper]

Do people not knwo about McDonalds and Coke?

Are you going to present a real argument here or are you going to continue asking silly and pointless rhetorical questions?

Don't answer; I already know the answer to my own silly and pointless rhetorical question.

What kind of advertising have you seen in the past when the Spurs were in the WCF, since we are talking about the Spurs in the WCF?

I really want to know what the Spurs did to make people go last time that they didn't do this time.

[MannyIsGod]

The kind of advertising they had in the past is irrelevant because they obviously need to do something now. If something sells in the past you don't just throw up your hands and say oh well when it doesn't sell in the present, you find a way to sell it or you don't make any money. Its that simple.

[TheWriter]

I understand that there's people like you. But I still don't see what changed from 2 years ago when you couldn't find playoff tickets to now, when people can't give them away. The only thing I know that changed is some fans enthusiasm for the playoffs.

Two years ago it was our in state rival. This year it's the Jazz with Boozer and Okur. Spurs don't like the match up and don't want to pay to see it live when they can watch it for free and Spurs fans rightfully so or not believe the Spurs are on cruise control to the finals when we will likely face the Pistons.

But with that said, it was one game, not two or three or the series. One game in 5 seasons of playoff basketball didn't sell out. It'll be ok.

[ChumpDumper]

The kind of advertising they had in the past is irrelevant because they obviously need to do something now.

What? Did they anticipate not selling out well in advance of Sunday in time to buy tv spots during May sweeps?

Is the paper and the website not a good way to get the news out?

[TheWriter]

Frankly, I think people just don't care about the Jazz.

DING DING DING!

People didn't care about the Jazz, after coming off a big emotional series, at 2:30 on a Sunday afternoon.

[TheWriter]

I don't think an advertising needs to be done, not now, it's too late and this series will be over soon anyways. However, the Spurs PR department is one of the worst in the US and needs to be overhauled.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, spurfans can watch on TV when they play in Anaheim too.

If they don't get the money from you, they'll get it somewhere else.

I completely agree that going to the ATT is a big asspain and it should have been downtown, but damn.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think an advertising needs to be done, not now, it's too late and this series will be over soon anyways. However, the Spurs PR department is one of the worst in the US and needs to be overhauled.

Compared to whom, all the other NBA PR departments whose local ad campaigns you've witnessed?

[TheWriter]

Compared to whom, all the other NBA PR departments whose local ad campaigns you've witnessed?

The fact that we're going on year 8 of the same catch phrase.

The fact that not once has there ever been a promotion where t-shirts are given out to the fans to color out an arena.

The local commercials for the team are few and far between and basically suck.

I can go on.

And I said one of the worst not the worst but one.

[ChumpDumper]

Please do go on.

[Kori Ellis]

The fact that we're going on year 8 of the same catch phrase.

??

The catch phrase changes every year.

[TheWriter]

??

The catch phrase changes every year.

Go Spurs Go?

The motto changes every year not the catch phrase.

[Kori Ellis]

Go Spurs Go?

The motto changes every year not the catch phrase.

Go Spurs Go is just a chant, it's not a catch phrase. The Spurs barely even promote Go Spurs Go.

Get Ready. Get Loud. is this year's catch phrase.

[TheWriter]

Go Spurs Go is just a chant, it's not a catch phrase. The Spurs barely even promote Go Spurs Go.

Barely? They have the huge ass banner in the arena.

The music for the local telecasts have Go Spurs Go.

When the Spurs have the ball the music is played to have the crowd chant Go Spurs GO.

Get Ready. Get Loud. is this year's catch phrase.

That's a motto. Just like One Team. One Goal.

[milkyway21]

I don't think an advertising needs to be done, not now, it's too late and this series will be over soon anyways. However, the Spurs PR department is one of the worst in the US and needs to be overhauled.

I hope you are right it would be over soon.
I really don't want the Spurs to face Utah 1-1 in game 3. We lost twice @ Energy Solutions this yr and Utah has an impressive 6-0 homecourt record in this playoffs.

Scary.
Game 2(tonight), is a must-win for the Spurs. We don't want to end this series in 6 or 7 games like like yr we faced Dallas in just how many hrs later(?), after game 6 Spurs exhausted eventually losing the series.

2-0 Spurs!

i hope to see the AT&T full packed tonight.

[Kori Ellis]

No. It's the catch phrase.

Go Spurs Go is just a fan chant. They have the fans chant it once (or sometimes twice) a game. And a couple banners.

Get Ready. Get Loud. is this year's catch phrase. It's printed every where - t-shirts, posters, banners, everywhere.

The catch phrase changes every year. Fan chants don't usually change in the lifetime of a franchise.

Whatever you want to call it. Get back to how the PR department hasn't done anything in eight years.