Manu forgot to mention that the kid would go get his baseball with a crobar in hand, because that's how kids playing baseball at midnight roll.
I read the whole article
How about the part where it says this
or the part where they mention they were shot in the back? or how about the part where the Senator who wrote the law acknowledges the fact that this situation does not apply?The operator repeatedly urged him to stay in his house, but Horn said he did not believe it would be right to let the burglars get away
I shot my neighbors kid today cause he was trying to get his ball out of my yard. My neighbor and I had a good laugh about it and said "We live in Texas! Thats how we roll!" then went back on our daily business. Thats life in the wild west.
Its so ing stupid to use a case where some ing thieves get shot - in front of a cop no less - to try to make a case on gun control. Pooooooooooooooooooooooooor ing thieves. They could have been little leaguers.
You don't get shot in the back running in the direction of someone with a gun, Einstein.
, it doesn't have to be a kid, it could be a ing adult. Its not the ing point. The fact that its not YOUR house being broken into, and not YOUR life being threatened makes all the difference in the world. You give people that kind of leeway in judgment in situations like this and tragedies happen. Although the fact that you think these two men dying was nothing to fret about tells me perhaps you're not too concerned about it.You're really being an idiot about this one. The old man probably wouldn't shoot a kid grabbing his baseball from his yard, of course the kid wouldn't have just kicked down the neighbor's front door, either.
And I'd bet the kid would probably stop when the old man told him to.
Again with the "stop digging your hole" bull . Just present your arguments and STFUYou are just getting your ass handed to you in this one, just shut up and move on.
In other words, the thieves, they deserved to die. Am I in the ballpark? (pun intended)
Yeah, let's see, they had had repeated breakins in the neighborhood. It was a fair assumption that it was probably the same jackasses as before.
All he told the operator was he did not believe it would be right to let them get away. He tried to get them to stop, he told them to freeze. He didn't kick out his front door with the 12 gauge blazing.
Damn.
I don't really give a what a senator said, they're all idiots and particularly the ones in Texas don't want to say anything to endanger the hispanic vote for themselves so it's not a surprise to see them riding the fence on this one.
Yes, I saw they were shot in the side/back. He doesn't know that the guy wasn't running to a car to get a gun or anything. All he knows is that he told them to freeze and one of them just ran in his direction.
There was an eyewitness to the crime that backed the guy up and said it was justifiable, but clearly your gun hating ass sitting a couple thousand miles away knows better. Stupid us.
by the way, I'm not making a case for gun control. I am for it, but I don't believe it needs to be brought into this situation. I believe that the old man went overboard and committed murder just as I believe that the two stupid s that he killed were criminals that deserved to go to jail. Had Horn stayed inside like the 911 operator said, then perhaps that's where they would be now.
or perhaps they wouldve robbed and killed another neighbor next week
Which STILL does not excuse killing them if not in self defense, so don't bring that as if it does.
In other words he took justice into his hands... I missed the part where this er is an officer of the law.All he told the operator was he did not believe it would be right to let them get away. He tried to get them to stop, he told them to freeze. He didn't kick out his front door with the 12 gauge blazing.
Well seeing as though that senator, whose opinion you don't give a about, wrote the ing law that Horns defense used to get him off. I'd say his 2 cents about what the law was intended for have a little more weight than your "I just don't give a "I don't really give a what a senator said, they're all idiots and particularly the ones in Texas don't want to say anything to endanger the hispanic vote for themselves so it's not a surprise to see them riding the fence on this one.
Asuming you could say he made a mistake with the dude that approached him and turned away. What about the other er? The cop in plain clothes said only one approached him with a crowbar. Guess shooting the other just made sense huh?Yes, I saw they were shot in the side/back. He doesn't know that the guy wasn't running to a car to get a gun or anything. All he knows is that he told them to freeze and one of them just ran in his direction.
I might be missing it, but where in that article does it say the eye witness thought the shooting was justified?There was an eyewitness to the crime that backed the guy up and said it was justifiable,
Save it! You weren't there either, and because you weren't there, you're working with the same information I am. It makes no ing difference whether I'm 1000 miles away and you're 10.but clearly your gun hating ass sitting a couple thousand miles away knows better. Stupid us.
oh then, by all means, shoot them...
What If Manu is shooting around in his garage, shots like he did in the Lakers series and the ball ends in the neighbour's backyard? Manu goes looking for it and the neighbour shoots him.
The Argentinian doctors would say that he is ok to play in the Olympics, since as we all know, doctors who live south of the Rio Grande are actually veterinarians.
The Spurs management would drive to the morgue and say to his corpse "see, we told you. You shouldn't play basketball when it isn't Spurs-related. Now, do you accept this new contract? It has a pay-cut, since we expect your role to be reduced next year, with you being dead and all. C'mon, this isn't the first time we do this kind of deal, just look at Finley and Horry".
The Lakers fans would call bull on the "bullet excuses", and talk about "how great was Sasha covering that coffin".
The Suns fans will post in every basketball internet forum about how "there's no bullet, clearly. That footage of his head exploding into millions of pieces is fake."
The police will be looking for the suspect. Rumours indicate he is 6'2'', shaven head and speaks English with an European accent...
too ing funny
Agreed. Sig worthy even, if it wasn't as long
Damn it! MMLH!
He feared for his life, eh? Is that why he went outside with a shotgun?
That analogy posted earlier is off base.
If your neighbor is getting his ass kicked (A & B) in his yard, then is it ok to shoot the dude who did it after it's over and he walks across your yard?
I'm just curious, have you ever been in a situation like that? Let's see, you've got two guys breaking and entering in the middle of the night (we're not talking high noon here), one brandishes a crobar and runs in your direction. You pull the trigger.Asuming you could say he made a mistake with the dude that approached him and turned away. What about the other er? The cop in plain clothes said only one approached him with a crowbar. Guess shooting the other just made sense huh?
There's another guy with him. If his buddy had a crobar, it's logical he's got at least a crobar, possibly even a knife or a gun. Oh wait, I know, he should have stood around and waited to see if the other guy shot him with a gun before doing anything about the other guy, right? Makes perfect sense.
And if you read the guy's comments, he said he was scared for his life. Bottom line, when you're in what you perceive to be a life threatening situation, you do what you can to eliminate that threat. He was in between two burglars, one of whom had a weapon. He acted to eliminate the perceived threat to his life.
Ah, who the am I kidding? You think he's a cold blooded murderer regardless. it, I'm done with this thread. I will say I'd love to have this guy as a neighbor.
He went out of his way to put himself in that situation. He just couldn't let them get away, no?
Dude knew what he was doing and that fear defense is weak.
What does reciting the law to the 911 operator tell you? It's ok if I shoot these guys, right?
Well seeing as though he put himself into that situation against the advice of the 911 operator, he couldn't have been that scared. You don't go, confront a guy who is robbing house, and then claim you HAD to kill him 'cause you were scared he was going to kill you. WTF?
and why would you quote a law like "castle doctrine" before going out with a shotgun?
Seriously, all I'm hearing from you equates to "Who gives a ! they were criminals!" which completely misses the whole point. It doesn't matter what the they were, or whether or not they had done it before. They deserve to go to jail. You shooting them in the back is not a ing legal option. Well, at least it shouldn't be IMO. In this case, it appears to have worked.
You shooting them in the back is not a ing legal option. Well, at least it shouldn't be IMO. In this case, it appears to have worked.
Don't come to texas thief.
Really? I wouldn't. I'd much rather have a neighbor who called 911 and gave the police as much information as he could so that they could better do their jobs and get the people who burglarized my house.
He went out there to play hero without knowing whether or not he was creating/contributing to a situation that could have ended in the injury or death of others in the neighborhood. Sorry, but there's nothing noble about being an impulsive jackass with a shotgun.
I doubt ud say that with the burglars returned and had you at knife point saying
"Im glad my neighbor didn't help me and was a good citizen in giving the info to the cops, who really don't give a "
If you are a good marksman, there wont be any questions to ask.
I feel that Mr. Horn was 100% justified in his actions.
If someone is breaking into my neighbors house and then when I tell them to stop, and one, or both come after me, you bet your sweet ass Im going to shoot. And I dont care if its in his back or his front. Im shooting!
Burglars with knifes are pretty much the last people I want made panicky.
I doubt you'd say that if the perps returned and had a bake sale.
Conjecture is fun.
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