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West isn't as tough as it is compe ive. Mavs =
Kobe sucks as a leader.
West isn't as tough as it is compe ive. Mavs =
What bothers me is what if Artest do behave for a while. I expect the Lakers to have 50 win or more season, and go deep in the playoffs.
Artest will give that defensive ferocity that he always brings, and some of the Lakers players may feed off that more than listening to Kobe make a point on court.
Most of us expect Artest to be a head case because a behaved Artest will spell trouble for our teams, but remember even Rodman reined himself in once in a while to help the Bulls to another Championship.
maybe i should have said IMO. even with bynum back i still think the lakers are just contenders, but i do agree with you that if you guys get artest too there would be a parade here in LA again.They're already the favorites with Bynum coming back. Ron Artest just fills the hole at the 3 for a two way shooting forward. Both things Odom isn't capable of doing (shooting and playing defense)
West isn't as tough as it is compe ive. Mavs =stupppiiddd
The mavs left with bunch of over-paid veterans with no superstar, besides Dirk the softy, and you think by signing Diop will get you to the top?? giving 6 mil per year to a guy who is worth 70K's per year.
At less Avery Johnson is saved from becoming the next Isiah Thomas, because Dallas sure looks like that it is headed towards becoming the Knicks of the west. Make the wise choice, start rebuilding!!
I hope Artest do go to the lakers,slap the outta hobe. Artest will beat the outta bryant just to prove a point. the lakers
West isn't as tough as it is compe ive. Mavs =
Before FA began, Vegas still had the Celtics as the favorites to win the '08-'09 Championship at 7/2 odds. Even though the odds at this time mean little to who will actually be hoisting the trophy next June, here is the full list:
Boston Celtics 7/2
Los Angeles Lakers 5/1
Detroit Pistons 6/1
San Antonio Spurs 8/1
New Orleans Hornets 11/1
Orlando Magic 14/1
Houston Rockets 15/1
Utah Jazz 15/1
Cleveland Cavaliers 16/1
Chicago Bulls 20/1
Phoenix Suns 20/1
Dallas Mavericks 25/1
Denver Nuggets 25/1
Portland Trailblazers 25/1
Washington Wizards 25/1
Golden State Warriors 40/1
Miami Heat 40/1
Atlanta Hawks 50/1
Charlotte Bobcats 50/1
New Jersey Nets 50/1
New York Knicks 50/1
Philadelphia 76ers 50/1
Toronto Raptors 50/1
Indiana Pacers 75/1
Los Angeles Clippers 100/1
Memphis Grizzlies 100/1
Milwaukee Bucks 100/1
Minnesota Timberwolves 100/1
Sacramento Kings 100/1
Seattle Supersonics 100/1
I'm sure that the odds have changed, as they will from day to day (especially for teams like the 76ers)
This isn't about Jordan. Rodman won without Jordan.
And Rodman (part 1) was in LA BEFORE Phil Jackson. Not only that, but they won almost every game Rodman played in, even when they didn't win, he had very good numbers.
Artest is not Rodman,Rasheed, or any of those other guys people try to compare him to. Rodman and Rasheed weren't diagnosed by doctors as being mentally unstable. I don't recall Rodman and Rasheed ever threatening to beat up teamates if they didn't play hard.
I laugh at anyone who says Artest will respect Kobe. Why the would Artest respect Kobe just because he pimped him in an interview. That means jack squat. Artest talked about his admiration for MJ a lot when he was drafted by the bulls and then broke MJ's ribs after a game of one on one. If that man couldn't respect MJ the GOAT why would he respect Kobe or anybody else. It would be funny to see Kobe in press conference after a practice with 2 black eyes and a reporter asking "Kobe what happened to your eyes?" Kobe replies "Nah thats nothing I just accidentally ran into a door."
Ron-ron would leave Kobe's vagina bleeding if they got into it.
The Deal is imminent
I hope so. A lateral move at best.
Not a lateral move at all if Bynum returns healthy. The move makes sense if the Lakers are certain Bynum will be back at the same level. You lose Odom's rebounding, but Bynum and Gasol can more than make up for it. You lose a little bit of versatility and play making by Odom, but Artest is adequate in both respects. You gain an extraordinarily on the defensive end with both the additions of Artest and Bynum.
There are risks and the move being successful still depends on Bynum's healthy and Artest's mental stability.
But, it's not a lateral move.
Keep Odom from going left, and he is a liability on offense. He cant shoot very well and he is too inconsistent. Artest is a much better 3 pt shooter than Odom is plus he brings defensive toughness. Of course as Jammy Jam just said, Bynums health will be vital if this deal does take place.
im surprised that noone mentioned the biggest factor if the Laker get Artest. Artest will be guarding the best player of the opposing team. He will be guarding the Pierce's and the Mcgrady's...thus leaving Kobe with more energy to do what he does best...SCORE!
A line up of
Fisher
Bryant
Artest
Gasol
Bynum
Would be insane!
Interesting word choice involving Artest there buddy.
Sam Amick, the writer from sacramento who re-ignited the Lamar for Artest trade rumor, was interviewed on a sacramento radio show and discussed the Ron Artest situation. He actually drops quite a bombs in the interview that I'm shocked hasn't broken widely...
He said in the interview that a lower member of the Buss family basically told Mitch to get it done. "Get it done" as in get a deal for Artest done. He mentions the same pieces he did in his blog. We would have to give up Lamar and take on Kenny Thomas."
Now I'm not to sure if the Lakers should pull through with this trade. Lamar Odom has said in the past that hes wanted to finish his career as a Laker. People don't realize how much drama this man has encountered in LA. His first year as a Laker his grandma passed away. She was the one who took care of him as a child when his mom passed away at the age of 13. So that had a big impact on his life emotionally. He still was able to go throughout the whole season playing with heart. Two Summers later his son Lamar Jr. passed away at just six months because he couldn't breath.
The death of his son led to sadness. He then showed up to training camp that Summer out of shape because he was to discouraged to play basketball. Yet on the game opener VS the Phoenix Suns he put on one of the greatest games hes ever played. Without Kobe Bryant he led his team to victory over the heavily favored Suns.
He put up:
34 points on 50% shooting, 13 boards, and 6 assist.
At one point in the game he hit a break away three which led to a Phoenix time out. During that time out Lamar got a little emotional because he was doing it for his loved ones.
Lamar Odom is here to win a championship unlike Artest who cares about the money a little bit more. Artest is a great player don't get me wrong but he lacks that heart which Lamar shows everytime he steps on the court.
Artest actually was asked if he would take less money to play for a championship team and he said: "Not in a million years" Thats how important money is to this talented young man.
If I'm Mitch Kupchak I do NOT trade Lamar and trade players like Radmonovic, Mihm, and Farmar.
Lamar would be a great fit when Bynum comes back. Pressure would not be on him. That means he can be what he always wanted to be a rebounder and good passer on offense. He would be a complete mis- match for many at that position (SF) because hes a 6 - 10 ball handler who can run the floor, post you up, defend, rebound, and make good passes out of the triangle offense. One thing that he does not posses is a good consistent outside jumper. That is one of the reasons why they want Lamar out. They feel you need to be able to shoot the ball to be a great SF.
Which is ridiculous if you ask me. We already have enough shooter on the floor. Gasol, Bryant, and Fisher. Good old fashion offense is scoring in the paint not taking jumpers.
Men are made in the paint - Bill Walton
Thank you for reading.
http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articl...m_Amick/289682
it shall be done
HAHA nOiceee.
Damn that's one scary starting 5.
Parker Fisher
Ginobil > Bryant
Bowen Artest
Duncan Gasol
Thomas Bynum
obsessed anyone?
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