What Duncan Told Maggette After He Turned The Spurs Down

[Buddy Holly]

Duncan has lead the Spurs to four les while Kobe has lead the Lakers to zero and co-lead with Shaq to three.

Yet you are ing dumb enough to rate Kobe higher than Duncan. lol

[polandprzem]

Duncan sometimes comes across as aloof but his thirst for victory is undeniable. He's not fast, he's not quick, he can't jump, he's not physically imposing and he's not even overly skilled at any one aspect of the game. But when it comes to pure dedication to winning championships above all else, I don't know an athlete in the history of sport who has him beat.

You don't know about other ports don't you

[timvp]

Shaq
Kobe

ROFL. Yeah, Kobe is so dedicated to championships that he ran off the player who carried him to his only championships. And Shaq is so dedicated to championships that he's been out of shape since his rookie season. Can't get anything past Laker Fan

There are sportsmen who I'd say are as dedicated as Duncan but it'd be pretty hard to find one more dedicated than Duncan.

[exstatic]

I thought Kareem was the funny one. He was probably no more dedicated to b-ball and winning than Five Oh. If you suddenly put the rest of Showtime around DRob, he'd have won a fistful of rings, too.

[SouthernBrew]

He used to be overly skilled at the bank shot, but he seems to have let that one slide. His skill set is strangely amorphous. Basically, he does almost everything at a just sub-elite level. It adds up to a monster, but is somewhat underwhelming at times.

I'm glad I'm not imagining this..

During these playoffs his lack of the bank shot really struck me, I'm not in any position to question Tim Duncan but it seemed like he could have used that bank shot in these playoffs...especially against NO when he was having some trouble driving to the hoop

[Taking it to the Hole]

Tim's a STUD like always. Going to miss seeing him play when he retires. It is going to be a huge void in a lot of San Antonians lives. I just hope he gets to be as lucky as Robinson was in his last years, and wins a championship to cap off everything.

[Taking it to the Hole]

Oh, and not to mention Duncans pathetic performance for his country, and lack of will to win a gold medal. Shaq brought home the gold... and so will Kobe.

So I see Kobe is going to be the only player on the Olympic team to bring home gold? Funny how we are only sending one player to win gold for us all.

Yeah, and FIBA rules are different than NBA rules. Tim never cared for FIBA rules because they are not friendly to post players like him.

If your going to tell me Shaq has more skill than Tim, your beyond re ed and if your going to tell me Kobe has more of a desire to win than Tim does, then you obviously need to put the crack down for a second.

Typical FAKER FAN...deluded to the end.

[tmtcsc]

Duncan sometimes comes across as aloof but his thirst for victory is undeniable. He's not fast, he's not quick, he can't jump, he's not physically imposing and he's not even overly skilled at any one aspect of the game. But when it comes to pure dedication to winning championships above all else, I don't know an athlete in the history of sport who has him beat.

This guy:

[rj215]

The only categories where Kobe has Duncan beat is raping girls and throwing teammates under the bus....just remember Kobe fans:

2 MVPS > 1
3 Finals MVPS > 0
and most importantly 4 les > 3 (where Shaq was the man)

Granted Kobe might win another le someday but it'll because another center (Bynum) has to carry is ass to a championship....

[peskypesky]

I thought Kareem was the funny one. He was probably no more dedicated to b-ball and winning than Five Oh. If you suddenly put the rest of Showtime around DRob, he'd have won a fistful of rings, too.

Hey, I love DRob, but you're not seriously comparing him to Kareem are you? If we Spurs fans don't like it when Lakers fans compare Kobe to Jordan, we shouldn't be doing the same type of thing.

[meestahmeestah]

I thought Kareem was the funny one.

yes, haven't you seen Kareem in the movie "Airplane"?

[spursfan09]

This thread was awesome, until the Laker trolls started spreading thier nonsense. If Tim Duncan was a Laker they would be singing his praises. They would definitly say he was the greatest PF in history. Instead they are blinded by the bright yellow color the Lakers wear for uniforms.

[polandprzem]

There are sportsmen who I'd say are as dedicated as Duncan but it'd be pretty hard to find one more dedicated than Duncan.

Tim is as much dedicated as you can ask from a sportsmen.
But there are some sports where you pushing your body to the absolute limit on training and never gave up no matter what. Like combat sports (fighting).
And you could see it bare eye what are they going through.
In basketball it's hard to see the dedication, and especially you won't see it if you are not a Spurs fan, from TimDuncan.

In basketball I think you can find a guys like Bird, Thomas, Russell which were amazingly dedicated to the sport they were participating in.

[Spurtacus]

This thread was awesome, until the Laker trolls started spreading thier nonsense. If Tim Duncan was a Laker they would be singing his praises. They would definitly say he was the greatest PF in history. Instead they are blinded by the bright yellow color the Lakers wear for uniforms.

[Obstructed_View]

I have a feeling Timmy wasn't being completely truthful. I think it will be a little personal...

[mowgli]

Duncan sometimes comes across as aloof but his thirst for victory is undeniable. He's not fast, he's not quick, he can't jump, he's not physically imposing and he's not even overly skilled at any one aspect of the game. But when it comes to pure dedication to winning championships above all else, I don't know an athlete in the history of sport who has him beat.

Wow, I love Duncan the player and the sportsman, but this post reeks of incredible homerism. And it wouldn't hurt for Duncan to rattle some sabres once in a while to get a prized offseason target.

As an aside, Yaqeen Karo is probably a better, more direct translation.

[SenorSpur]

There are sportsmen who I'd say are as dedicated as Duncan but it'd be pretty hard to find one more dedicated than Duncan.

Amen!

[SenorSpur]

Duncan evidentally has seen this movie:




That's a Jack Jenkins quote from that movie...minus "ass" in front the whuppin' part and minus the stuttering.

"T-t-tt-t-tttt-Try not to tt-t-t-take this ass wh-wh-wh-whuppin personally"

That's one of my favorite quotes ever.

You must've read my mind, as I thought about that line, too, when I read Tim's comments. He is a big movie buff, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[J_Paco]

I believe people undervalue Tim's tremendous skillset, especially when they fail to realize that he's not the same player as in his early years. He's an excellent rebounder, good to great shotblocker (has awesome timing), great passer and has one of the best low-post games ever in league history. Not to mention he's got solid, if not good ball-handling skils to top it off.

How many players aspire to be like and attempt to emulate Tim's all-around game? I can think of at least half a dozen.

Now, how many aspire to be like Shaquille O'Neal? Very few if any at all since Shaquille's game is mostly (not all) dependent on brute force.

Also, can anyone explain to me how Larry Bird had "superior" will or dedication to winning when he's got less les with more talented teams?

Larry's > Timmy's

[exstatic]

Hey, I love DRob, but you're not seriously comparing him to Kareem are you? If we Spurs fans don't like it when Lakers fans compare Kobe to Jordan, we shouldn't be doing the same type of thing.

David was a better athlete and a better post defender. Kareem had a much better offensive arsenal. I still think that David would have won a bunch of rings surrounded by the rest of Showtime.

I wasn't comparing the players as much as the at udes. They both seemed fairly blase' about hoops.

[endrity]

Russell
Kareem
Bird
Magic
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
Ali
Mayweather
Marciano
Tiger
Jack Nicklaus
Montana
Sampras
Brady
Federer

Thats enough for now. A couple of those guys have even gone through Duncan to win les. Also, those were some arrogant ass statements by Frankenstien Duncan.

As many here have already pointed out, this list is very very debatable.

One other aspect that I would like to add, is that it reeks of American-centrism. I am only saying this since you decided to add Federer to the list, and therefore make it international.

If you do than you might want to open your eyes a little bit more beyond ESPN. Before you mention guys like Shaq and Kobe, (and even some other in that list) who are talented as but with questionable at udes at best when compared to Duncan, you might want to check these guys out:

Lance Armstrong
Eddy Merckx (considered the greatest cycling rider of all times)
Michael Schumacher
Zinedine Zidane
Diego Armando Maradonna
Pele

and probably more in some lesser known disciplines.

[polandprzem]

I believe people undervalue Tim's tremendous skillset, especially when they fail to realize that he's not the same player as in his early years. He's an excellent rebounder, good to great shotblocker (has awesome timing), great passer and has one of the best low-post games ever in league history. Not to mention he's got solid, if not good ball-handling skils to top it off.

How many players aspire to be like and attempt to emulate Tim's all-around game? I can think of at least half a dozen.

Now, how many aspire to be like Shaquille O'Neal? Very few if any at all since Shaquille's game is mostly (not all) dependent on brute force.

Also, can anyone explain to me how Larry Bird had "superior" will or dedication to winning when he's got less les with more talented teams?

Larry's > Timmy's

wtf dedication got to do with les?

[Man of Steel]

I wanted to see CM in a Spurs uniform, too.

But $5 million is a lot of money (except if you're Baron Davis or Elton Brand, I guess).

I think CM really had no choice--that is too much money to turn down.

BTW--I am glad Duncan said that to CM. It stands out when someone says very little like this but can back it up. Kobe may talk a lot of trash. But it stands out when Duncan say anything that resembles trash talking it because he isn't a quote machine.

[J_Paco]

wtf dedication got to do with les?

Umm, dedication to working on your game during the off-season, improving as a player and to winning.

Or did you fail to read the other, I don't know, 40 or so posts mentioning the word and concept?

[whottt]

Come on guy. That silver and black cloud of dust has you Spurs fans blind. Kareem is by far the greatest college player ever. He won 3 les at UCLA, with 3 college player of the year awards; would have been four if it were not for that NCAA rule that freshmans have to sit. He won 6 NBA MVP's. He had 6 NBA les. Duncan is not even on the radar with Kareem. And by the way... Kobe has gone through Duncan with and without Shaq.

As timvp once said... Duncan is not great at anything! He just has a great will to win, and I agree. But on the flip side, there are guys who are great at a lot of things, and also has/had a greater will to win.

So what you are saying is that having Magic Johnson for a PG wouldn't have done for Duncan or Drob?

That makes you the least knowledgable poster on this board...

David Robinson and Tim Duncan never came close to missing the playoffs when healthy...Kareem finished in last place at least once...healthy.


And I remain amazed at how few Lakerfans realize that the Lakers tried like to sign David Robinson before he commited to the Spurs, in fact in IIRC 88David Robinson was a guest at the forum courtesy of Jerry West during the playoffs...