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Hey Manny im moving to Vegas after the holidays, to pursue my Poker endeavors.
So you enter them in like a CC? I've never heard of doing this before.
Hey Manny im moving to Vegas after the holidays, to pursue my Poker endeavors.
GL
What do you plan on playing?
Mostly tourneys and grinding in cash games, im much better currently in tourneys however with a little bit more discipline i should do well in cash games, I always seem to do well in cash games in just about each session, my problem comes after ive been there too long and start making bad decisions and things go south fast. But im aware of this and hope to work on it.
I don't have this delusion that im going to go there and turn into a millionaire overnight but i have a decent income with my online business to fall back on if things should not work out or to get me thru times when variance is not going my way.
I have done very well in the lower buy in tourneys but as my bankroll increases i will be stepping up and playing in some bigger events.
What type of cash levels have you beat online? What type of tourney levels have you beaten online? What type of sample size are we talking about here? Vegas Cash games are soft and the tourneys are even softer, BUT you can't play nearly as many tourneys live so being a live tourney pro is something I'd never think about doing unless you're going to play in as many large buy in events as possible.
Whats your poker stars screen name btw?
I will not give my Pstars i.d. but will tell you that i play as a girl with really big s and it really helps, i am very flirtatious at the table and i get a lot of ego calls as well as charity checks to let me see the river.
As i said i love to play in Tourneys, last year i played in about 64 smaller buy in tourneys(live) anywhere from $40-$150 tourneys and i cashed in 27 of them with a few victories 100-150 players field on average. I came out with a nice little profit over $10k this does not count my online winnings i would have played a lot more live if i handt been 3.5 hours from Vegas, imnot interested in the Indian Casinos here in Cali, I love Vegas so i have just gone there when i had my itch to play live.
I will probably build my way up in cash games as ive mostly played cash games online. Will probably start at 2-5 or 5-10 NLH
I know the bread and butter is made in cash games by most players and not tourneys, in fact most pros are losing players overall with their tourney buy ins compared to their winnings.
Its going to be a real learning experience I will have to look at it as a job and take it more seriously. Again im not fooling myself Im far from playing at a Pro Level but I'm a solid amateur. And if memory serves me correctly its been many years since a named pro has won the World Series, most of the last several winners are average joes with 3 yrs or less experience. No im not saying I think im going to win the main event, im just saying a little bit of skill and some determination can go a long way in Poker mixed with some luck. You know what im talking about there.
Also some plusses are that Vegas has a much cheaper cost of living than here in So/Cal, gas is cheaper, no state income tax, houses/apartments are cheaper, i would have less mileage in commuters per year.
I dont see myself living there forever perhaps a year or two to see what happens.
Why won't you give out your stars ID? I just wanted to sharkscope you to see what kind of success you've had in tourneys.
What type of cash games do you play online? I'd be wary of walking into a 5-10NL game live unless you're beating at least 1-2 online and 1-2 isn't easy these days. Its not super tough, but yeah.
I dunno - playing live cash games is great for a mid or high stakes grinder but for low stakes you're much better off beating online games because there is no toke, lower rake, rake back, and faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more hands.
Should be a fun experience. Good luck.
i play on bodog.
tip: use one of those credit card gift certificates to put money online. no way i trust those companies with my info.
Manny, what's your pstars ID?
And what limits do you usually play? Sorry if you've been asked before, I'm just curious, you seem to be really knowledgable about hold em. I have a few buddies that finally got me back into poker in about the past month or so. I've just been grinding $5 SNG's trying to build a roll. I'm trying to get to the point where I can consistently play anywhere from $5-$30 MTT's at any given time. Just been playing for kicks, not neccesarily to do anything major. Screenname is the same as on here.
Man... we need to get a live Spurstalk game going soon.
My PS's ID is MannyIsGod
I haven't played there in quite some time though. I do most of my play on Full Tilt (O Rly Ya Rly) and I play anything from 50NL to 200NL. I've taken shots at 400NL and I don't know if I just run bad or what, but I can't beat it yet.
I feel ya. I used to frequent .50/1 and $1/2 games on pstars ahwhile back and anytime I took a shot at $2/4 I couldn't get over the hump so to say. I could never figure it out either. Just gotta keep trying I suppose.My PS's ID is MannyIsGod
I haven't played there in quite some time though. I do most of my play on Full Tilt (O Rly Ya Rly) and I play anything from 50NL to 200NL. I've taken shots at 400NL and I don't know if I just run bad or what, but I can't beat it yet.
I was able to hold my own at 2/4 prior to UIGEA but not after. The games are just tougher these days. NL50 is still easy, but its not near teh free money it was 2 years ago.
Still an hourly rate of over 40 an hour is easily attainable even at that level, so the money is still decent.
Yea the UIGEA bill was the main reason I took an extended break from poker. Once alot of the smaller sites started shutting down and it became harder for the fishies to deposit money, I noticed my normal SNG tables becoming alot tougher. I'm kind of interested to see how the level of play is at the $10 and $20 levels if I get my roll high enough to frequent those games again. But yea I completely agree, the overall play of players has noticeably improved since UIEGA. I've still got a few friends who make a good $500-$600/week, so I guess there's hope yet
Heath,
Very early tourney,
You hold Kd 3d
Just match the blind to stay in preflop.
Flop is
Ad 4d Qs
Guy goes all in. Everyone folds. You are last to act (amoung non folders preflop).
Wanna go for it or no way you're flaming out 5 minutes into the tourney?
Most of the players playing NL100-200 aren't huge fish, but more of the TAGfish variety. They play tight and don't make stupid decisions with bottom pair but they still make plenty of stupid decisions. You can still average 5PTBB/100 at these games which can turn into a good hourly if you mul able well.Yea the UIGEA bill was the main reason I took an extended break from poker. Once alot of the smaller sites started shutting down and it became harder for the fishies to deposit money, I noticed my normal SNG tables becoming alot tougher. I'm kind of interested to see how the level of play is at the $10 and $20 levels if I get my roll high enough to frequent those games again. But yea I completely agree, the overall play of players has noticeably improved since UIEGA. I've still got a few friends who make a good $500-$600/week, so I guess there's hope yet
Manny - I have a question. Since you play so many hands, how many tables do you play at once? What level? And how tight do you play?
I've played poker for a long time now, and I have an incredibly good record playing 200NL in Casinos - I at least double my money 8/10 times I sit down, no . I keep a ledger. I'm also under no illusion that I'm a great player, I just know how to beat 200NL players, which isn't saying much.
However, I have dabbled online and for life of me can't beat the game!? I have played everywhere from 25-50c to 2-4, only playing 1 or 2 tables at a time, and I just can't win consistently. Got any advice? Maybe I need to see the people to make the right calls? Whaddayareckon? I don't get it, because I kill in the casino. Makes no sense to me.
PS My theory is that I make more poor decisions online because I get impatient, whereas when I'm at the casino I'm there until I feel like leaving, so I just take it as it comes, play tighter, trickier, and more sensibly. I really like playing face-to-face but don't really like online very much, maybe it's as simple as that... anyway, I don't play online any more, stick to what I can beat!
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 07-18-2008 at 01:07 AM.
Early in the tourney thats an easy fold man you dont want to gamble on a 30 percent draw that early in the tourney, if you call you are a donkey
For most people, playing in Sit-N-Go tournaments online is better than playing the straight cash games because of the set buy-in and the fact that usually, at least the top 3 seats will cash out.
The first rule of sit-n-go is not to do too much too early. If you've got more than 5 people at the table, play super cautious and only call more than the blinds or just over if you only have really great hole cards. Let the other tournament players pick each other off, and hopefully you'll pick up some decent holes somewhere along the way to build your bank. Once you either start to be a chip leader or once the headcount gets to four or under, then you can start to switch on the aggressive style.
Since I've started adapting this style, I might not win every table, but I make it to the top 5 regularly and usually at least cover my buy in.
Sit&Go is about patience though. You have to be ready to stick out a tournament for an hour or two if you hope to make it to the end.
Yeah, I've played plenty of sit-n-gos, and 180 player tourneys - cashed out in 3/5 of those. I just don't find them very interesting.
I guess my niche is simply 200NL at casinos. That'll do for me.
Ruff - 200NL at a casino is the bottom of the barrel. 200 NL online is not. Its a decently difficult game. At a casino you're simply playing against much poorer players who are going to give you action with extremely weak hands. Online at 200NL you need to have a decent understanding of the game in order to win.
If you're not beating 50 NL online over a good amount of hands then chances are that you're game needs a lot of work. Its also possible its just varience kicking you in the face. I had a losing month in June at the tables and I played about 75k hands that month. I constantly review my play and for the most part (I tilted off here and there but nothing substantial) my plays were correct. Its just to point out that even over such a large number of hands you can have downswrings that are bad.
Without watching you play I really can't say what it is.
Oh I really doubt its impatience. You're far more likely to get impatient live since you're seeing far fewer hands. Online its much easier to pick your spots since you get far more opportunities.
What are you guys doing with suited connectors when the preflop raise is large? (General question with variables needed, i know.)
Heath: I did indeed fold on the above all in after the flop. Did not get to see the turn and river as i was last. Same exact scenario happened twice more in that early round in hands where others called. One hit flush, one did not. So assuming mine would not have, the old 30 percent held true.
Reason i ask is I'm sure you've had tourneys where after a draw like that with early potential to become huge chip leader, you don't get another freakin draw the rest of the tourney.
you guys for starting this thread and giving me the itch to play again. Someone find me a way to deposit some money dammit!
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