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wow..
The only reason that game was even close was because the *purs got literally every call until the Barry play.
Enough already, no team has benefitted in history as much from bad calls as yours.....look at Duncan without NBA officials handholding him in the Olympics, he was a useless scrub.
wow..
donaghy was probably testing the free calls en led on his cellphone plan....
so any more updates on this? seems ESPN and Stern taking this off the headlines with breaking news like "mayo makes a half court shot"
Yeah the Olympics have never been fixed, EVER!
sincerely,
French Judge
I agree that ref oversight is poor, but every "I told you so" bag here is trying to tie Donaghy to their "Stern controls all outcomes" fantasies they dreamed up when their team lost a playoff series.
Fans didn't give a about Donaghy and won't give a about Foster if he's involved either.
I am pretty sure once 2 or more ppl are involved it's considered a conspiracy.
Stern does not need to be directly involved. He is still responsible, it's his league.
if you don't beleive Stern is direclty trying to cover up all this bad rep for the league, you are clueless.
Report: Donaghy bet on games.
Stupid fan: See? Stern is keeping the (Spurs/Lakers/Mavs/Suns/Blazers) from winning!!! He wants the (big/small/midsize) market teams to win to placate his (media cronies/sponsors/foreign fans/alien overlords)!!!!
There are 2 different types of conspiracies that could be involved with NBA officiating. One is that the league is telling officials how to call games and dictating outcomes that favor particular teams. That is a conspiracy that would implicate the Commissioner directly. Dongahy attempted to suggest that such a conspiracy exists, but as we all know, there is virtually no proof and Donaghy did little to further that case by citing only to highly-publicized cases without any further proof.
The other is a conspiracy among officials who are gambling. That would seem to be the sort of conspiracy that Foster's involvement might have suggested -- although, again, Foster has apparently been investigated in this matter and hasn't been indicted or otherwise found to have acted improperly. But that sort of conspiracy doesn't implicate Stern except in the tangential sense that the Commissioner's office is involved in overseeing the officials. Even then, Stern's involvement wouldn't be a matter of comission; it would be a matter of omission. Stern wasn't telling the officials (Donaghy and Foster (again, he's apparently innocent here)) what to do; at most he was failing to see what the officials were doing. If you have proof that Stern was telling officials how to call games and that Donaghy and Foster (again, he's apparently innocent of any wrongdoing here) were discussing those things before making bets, you don't have any proof to implicate the league in a conspiracy. So, at most, the league is guilty of poor oversight; nothing about this report, even if it revealed more fire, would suggest that the league was actively involved in the alleged conspiracy.
I agree with Chump's thought, as I noted earlier, that this isn't a vindication for those who believe that the league has been fixing playoff series or anything like that -- at best (if you think bringing down the league structure is a best case scenario) it suggests that the league has done a very poor job of overseeing its officials and ensuring that those officials are acting properly. Perhaps the league has realized this and is attempting to address those problems with its new hire of General Johnson to oversee officials. In any event, even if every official was on Donaghy's speed dial and there were extensive conversations among the officials about how to bet on games, none of those conversations would implicate Stern in a conspiracy to rig outcomes.
Even if there is nothing to support the idea that Stern was in on anything, if Foster does become implicated (which seems less likely as more time passes) Stern will be left with a growing credibility gap after his repeated assertions that Donaghy was the lone gunman. Because he was so emphatic in the aftermath of the Donaghy revelations that he was a "rogue official", any further problem will cast a shadow over practically every statement he's ever made. If it turns out Foster was indeed on the metaphorical grassy knoll there will be no silencing the .4 Truther movement.
Oh, I agree that Stern has heap big problem if there is proof that Foster was involved, particularly now that the league has indicated that it knew of the Foster link long ago. Stern's credibility on that issue would be shot. I don't think we'll cross that bridge, however, because it seems that there's nothing to implicate Foster as anything more than an unknowing patsy or simply a friend of Donaghy's.
I still think there's a logical disconnect between proof of gambling officials and any proof of the beliefs held by those who are part of the .4 Truther movement.
I find it highly unlikely that Foster was not involved in at least some way. Regardless of whether charges are brought against him or not.
thought i'd get this out here...
http://pregame.com/forums/blogs/rj-b...f-s-games.aspx
Big Money UNDEFEATED in Accused Ref's Games
by RJ_Bell on 07/16/2008 8:00 AM
Statistics indicate that NBA Referee Scott Foster Affected Games
Las Vegas, Nevada (7/15/08) News reports have revealed that NBA referee Scott Foster was involved in over 130 su ious phone calls with disgraced ref Tim Donaghy. An examination by RJ Bell of Pregame.com of betting patterns in Scott Fosters games raises even more questions.
During the 2006-07 period under investigation, seven games refereed by Scott Foster had lopsided enough betting on one team to move the point spread by at least 2 points; those seven teams were undefeated against Vegas meaning that the big-money gamblers won a 7 of 7 times on Fosters games; the odds of that happening randomly are less than 1%.Statistics alone cannot convict, but its certainly noteworthy that seven times in Fosters games one team was bet extremely heavily, and all seven times that team won, said RJ Bell of Pregame.com.
Two of those seven games stand out: On January 19, 2007 the Kings opened as a 1.5 favorites at Boston; betting on Sacramento moved the line to -4.5. Kings won by 5, shooting 25 free throws, versus only 14 free throws for the home team Celtics. On March 20, 2007 the Nuggets opened as 2.5 point underdogs at New Jersey. Denver was bet so heavily, they closed as 1 point favorites. Denver won by 4, shooting 32 free throws versus only 22 for the home team Nets.
In prior reporting widely carried by the national media, RJ Bell of Pregame.com uncovered that big-money bettors won 15 straight lopsidedly bet games refereed by Tim Donaghy during the 2006-2007 season.
Inside the numbers of this study: Teams bet in a disproportionate fashion typically win only around 50% against the Las Vegas line. Wins and losses determined against the opening number. The time frame considered: Opening Day 2006 through March 31, 2007.
MEDIA NOTE: Print, radio, TV, and Internet media should feel free to quote any information above. Please attribute: RJ Bell of Pregame.com.
For complete game-by-game details, follow-up questions, or media appearances email: [email protected]
Foster will probably be indicted soon. The feds usually leak out to Fox before they hand down indictments.
NBA: Where Rigged Games Happens
The 2002 WCF Game 6 between Kings & Lakers was allegedly fixed by 2 officials to extend the series to 7 games.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Kxt8iJCw&hl=en
The league should never have tried to go after Donaghy to recoup legal expenses. They are going to be hosed now.
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