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i expect a enforcer down low
and a nba championship
The Lakers get a ridiculous amount of layups as is. With Bynum in the mix he will cleanup all those missed layups from Gasol and Odom, and anything you give him within 3-4 feet from the basket he will finish. He's going to be a glorified garbage man on offense and as he gets older and his post game progresses his role on offense will increase.
i expect a enforcer down low
and a nba championship
ANDREW MUTHER IN BYNUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I expect Bynum to clash with Gasol. Pau will be shooting a lot, at Bynum's expense, and I don't expect Bynum to take his diminished role quietly.
Remember, Bynum is already talking about making max salary, and he won't get that if he's only Gasol's garbage man. Plus, the fact that Bynum is already talking max, before proving anything, tells us all we need to know about the size of his ego. There may not be room enough on the Lakers for both Bynum and Gasol.
I'm looking forward to the Shaq/Kobe Soap Opera, The New Generation.
Last edited by Bonior; 08-08-2008 at 01:44 AM.
We can all talk about how we think everyone will do. But the play will speak for itself.
Are you ing serious dude? You do realize he has played behind KWAME BROWN for his entire career without making a peep, even when he was clearly the better player. If there is one thing Andrew Bynum is not, it's selfish.
he even said he'd be willing to take a less-than-max salary as long as it was "fair". It's his agent who is demanding max money.
One thing I will say is Bynum's stats are very much inflated due to him playing besides Kobe. Personally I don't give a , by the time Kobe retires Bynum will be a much different player. He excels at what we need him to do right now.
I agree. However, the Lakers fans have been the loudest in maligning Artest, claiming that he's a ticking time bomb. You know and I know that he has every motive to behave himself in the coming season, but the Laker fanboys never shut up. So I decided to give them something to worry about -- something much likelier to happen than an Artest blowup this season.
Ah, but that was before Bynum could credibly ask for max salary. Considering that he is already demanding a huge raise (max salary or not, it will be huge), do you think he will let Gasol stand in his way now?
"Less than max" but still undoubtedly a ton. He will NOT get even the lower number if he is merely Gasol's garbage man. If Gasol takes fewer shots next season, he will be unhappy. If Bynum is forced to give up some shots (and a lot of earning power), expect him to seethe and then explode.he even said he'd be willing to take a less-than-max salary as long as it was "fair". It's his agent who is demanding max money.
There's no conflict like a financial conflict. The Bynum/Gasol dynamics will be FUN to watch next season.
One could argue by playing with a guy who dominates the ball so much his numbers arent what they would be.
Either way, i dont think bringing Bynum back necessarily means more lay ups for the Lakers - its probably the opposite in fact. Having a guy like Gasol at C and Odom alongside ment the paint was fairly open for Kobe to go to work.
Throwing Bynum in there along with another 7'1" guy and Odom, a natural post player, will make things awfully dificult for penetrators like Kobe.
I still think they should move Odom for more of a natural 3, like Marion.
You are quite clearly an idiot.Ah, but that was before Bynum could credibly ask for max salary. Considering that he is already demanding a huge raise (max salary or not, it will be huge), do you think he will let Gasol stand in his way now?
"Less than max" but still undoubtedly a ton. He will NOT get even the lower number if he is merely Gasol's garbage man. If Gasol takes fewer shots next season, he will be unhappy. If Bynum is forced to give up some shots (and a lot of earning power), expect him to seethe and then explode.
There's no conflict like a financial conflict. The Bynum/Gasol dynamics will be FUN to watch next season.
Bynum is only 20 years old, he knows his place. And if he doesn't Phil Jackson will put him there. Right now Gasol is a better offensive player than he is and he deserves to have more touches than Bynum. Bynum will still get his touches, but he will not be the focal point of the offense for quite some time. Like I said, only 20 years old.....the Lakers have been smart to move him along slowly.
What's sad about your posts is that you are a Rocket fan pretending to know what will happen to a player you've probably watched only sparingly. Save yourself the embarrassment and shut the up. Damn you Rocket fans are a bunch, always hyping yourself up in the off-season only to fail in the 1st round time and time again.
6 STRAIGHT 1ST ROUND EXITS!!!
There's an idiot in this conversation but it's not me.
If he "knows his place" why is he or his agent asking for the maximum salary? (Or anywhere near the max?)Bynum is only 20 years old, he knows his place.
Face it, Bynum made his maximum salary demand knowing how much it would hurt the team. But he or his mouthpiece made it anyway. That tells me one thing: his ego is as huge as his immaturity. And since Bynum's ability to make the max depends on Gasol's willingness to sacrifice (fat chance), we will probably see a Bynum/Gasol bustup next season.
Yes the idiot in this conversation is YOU.
Why the do you think his agent is asking for MAX money? BECAUSE HE IS A ING AGENT. MORE MONEY FOR BYNUM = MORE MONEY FOR AGENT. JESUS ING CHRIST HOW MANY TIMES DID YOUR PARENTS DROP YOU ON YOUR HEAD AS A BABY???
If the Lakers don't offer Bynum the max SOMEONE will. Big men are vastly overpaid in this league. Kwame Brown $9 million. Andrew Bogut, 6 years $72 million. I believe the max Bynum can make at this stage in his career is somewhere around $15 million a year. If he stays healthy and is productive the Lakers will willingly max him out or else they will lose him to some other team.
I've heard a lot of stupid on this forum, but Bynum being jealous of Gasol is about as dumb as it ing gets. Congrats.
Quite possibly I'm an idiot too, for even responding to someone like you. But it's Friday night and I'm bored.
But the fact is, Bynum's agent did make the max demand. And Bynum has not fired him. And the coming season is Bynum's contract year. Anybody brighter and more emotionally mature than an eight-year-old can connect the dots to conclude that Bynum and Gasol will have conflicting interests.Why the do you think his agent is asking for MAX money? BECAUSE HE IS A ING AGENT. MORE MONEY FOR BYNUM = MORE MONEY FOR AGENT.
YOU ARE ING DUMB.Quite possibly I'm an idiot too, for even responding to someone like you. But it's Friday night and I'm bored.
But the fact is, Bynum's agent did make the max demand. And Bynum has not fired him. And the coming season is Bynum's contract year. Anybody brighter and more emotionally mature than an eight-year-old can connect the dots to conclude that Bynum and Gasol will have conflicting interests.
Why the would Bynum fire an agent who is trying to get him as much money as possible? That is the PURPOSE of an agent, to get his client the MOST money. Athletes fire their agents all the time because they aren't getting enough money and now you think Bynum should fire his agent because he's trying to get him too much money?
You really think Gasol cares about not getting enough touches? The guy who looks to pass first every time in the post cares about getting touches now? Damn you really are talking out of your ass now. Please stick to the Rockets, you don't know about the Lakers.
You want to talk about chemistry issues, look at your ing team. Look at who you just brought in. A guy who has wrecked every ing team he's been on and who started the biggest brawl in NBA history by jumping into the stands and fighting with fans.
The Lakers will be fine. Everyone is onboard to win a ring, there will be ZERO chemistry issues. I can guarantee you that. Phil Jackson will keep the ship steady, he knows how to manage personalities better than anyone else.
That wasn't what I said, and I refuse to be distracted. Read what I wrote in #71 and try to be smarter than the average eight-year-old.
Everyone's generosity has a limit. Gasol would have to give up most of his shots in order for Bynum to pad his stats to maximum salary levels. It's not going to happen. Bynum will refuse to tolerate his diminished role for long; expect an explosion.You really think Gasol cares about not getting enough touches? The guy who looks to pass first every time in the post cares about getting touches now?
So much for tonight; I'm off to bed.
Um that's exactly what you said dumbass
"But the fact is, Bynum's agent did make the max demand. And Bynum has not fired him"
Damn you're a ing moron. You're criticizing Bynum for not firing his agent for demanding max money when that is what every single player's agent does. you are stupid. Goddamn your parents must be ing brother and sister because you are straight re ed.
The only player that would have to give up shots is LAMAR ODOM. Fortunately for us, he LOVES being an assist man and keeping himself out of the limelight. It's the perfect role for him.
Gasol, Bryant, and Bynum will get the lion's share of the touches. Bynum is still developing in the post so he will come along slowly like he did last season. If he stays healthy and shows good progress the Lakers will max him out. He doesn't have to worry about putting up monster numbers, the Lakers will gladly max him if he can prove he can stay healthy and be productive in our system.
Please stop talking in this thread. YOU ARE A ING MORON. Repeat that with me, YOU ARE A ING MORON. Tell your parents to never procreate again.
Again you want to talk about CHEMISTRY ISSUES. LOOK WHO YOU ING ADDED TO YOUR PATHETIC 1st ROUND UNDERACHIEVING LOSER ASS TEAM. 6 STRAIGHT MOTHER ING 1st round exits. Goddamn that is pathetic.
6 STRAIGHT 1ST ROUND EXITS!!!
Are you kidding me? Dude after reading your replies to bonner ive come to the conclusion that your an idiot. He hasn't insulted you, and is merely trying to have an intelligent conversation. Your just cussing him out, Bynum is VERY disrespectful to his teammates, go look up a couple of videos on youtube, he shoved Sasha after he asked him to ,"Throw him the ing ball!" Bynum is better then Kwame but he didn't have enough experience, that is why he played behind him.
Trust me, the hype bynum gets is nowhere close to what it should be. Guys like Horford, Thornton, Durant have showed much more than your little rat.
He hasn't dissed the lakers and yet you keep bringing up first round exits, what does that have to do with how bad of a player Bynum is? Try to stay on topic, your not very convincing.
How can I have an intelligent conversation with someone who is telling me:
"Bynum is VERY disrespectful to his teammates"
Goddamn you Rocket fans are idiots. Stick to your own team, you don't know about the Lakers.
Thanks, sook.
Mad Hatter:
Selective quoting that distorts the author's clear intent has always been considered dishonest.
Won't work. If Odom tries to give up his shots to Bynum, other teams will counter by packing the paint. And Bynum will get fewer shots than ever.
Face it, there is no way for Bynum to get the kind of superstar salary he clearly wants unless Gasol sacrifices heavily -- which will not happen. I'm looking forward to the explosion in the Lakers' locker room.
Do you have any more silly, desperate theories?
Last edited by Bonior; 08-09-2008 at 05:42 PM.
Rocket fans are priceless. Trying to tell Laker fans they have to worry about locker room implosions when they just SIGNED RON ARTEST. Please keep it up, you guys are off to a great start here on ST.
The Laker organization has watched Bynum grow from when he was a fat chubby teen into the man-beast he is now. They want him locked up to be a Laker for life, there is no pressure on Bynum to put up insane stats. In other words, he doesn't need to play like his life depends on it to get maxed out. All he has to do is stay healthy and produce like he did before he went down.
Repeat this with me now. If the Lakers don't max Bynum out, SOMEONE else will. See Andrew Bogut, Kwame Brown, Okafor, etc. Big men GET PAID IN THIS LEAGUE. Now please go back to clutch s.net and the away from this thread. You are beyond stupid and your parents are a disgrace to humanity for having you.
I don't understand how this discussion turned. Question is, what do the Lakers expect out of Bynum next year? I gave my answer on page 1. All I can say is the Laker team was looking forward to getting him back last season, but it didn't happen. I think Bynum is excited to be on this team because they did so well once Gasol came on board.
Lakers didn't win it all last year, but now they're pissed off! This could be one of the best seasons in Laker history coming up.
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