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  1. #51
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    Plashcke trying his hardest to complement Kobe, haha.

    Jason Kidd has been trying to shoot some shots.

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    Jason Kidd has been trying to shoot some shots.


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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Hi Jeff

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    his hand is right on that ref's , Jeff.

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    no

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Jkidds poor shooting is all a fluke and kobe sucks ass.

    Mavs going to win it all next year while kobe complains cuz he couldnt get traded

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    We'll never know if they could have won without Wade either.
    But we know they can lose with Wade...just ask Manu.

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    Kobe is a big phony.

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    Believe. Showtime24 LAKERS's Avatar
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    But we know they can lose with Wade...just ask Manu.
    While you're at it ask Lebronze and Dimcan why they couldn't win it in 04'

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    could USA win with Manu on the court?

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    could USA win with Manu on the court?
    Can Manu ever get over his fear of KOBE? Ever since Kobe slapped him, he pulls the injury card whenever he faces him.


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    Ok, so let's forget 2004 and give LeBron + Wade a free hall pass for that debacle.

    I just remembered that the 2006 Worlds "Bronze" team had many of the same superstars minus Kobe:

    LeBron James (Captain) , Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh

    Watch the LeBronze + Newly minted Finals MVP Wade + CP3 + Melo but 0 Kobe 2006 horror show:
    (this "awesome" Greece team with 0 NBA players lost by 23 to Spain in the final Gold game)
    Last edited by Allanon; 08-27-2008 at 05:28 PM.

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    i think we still would have won no doubt, but kobe made it that much easier, without him a lot of those games would have been close and the spain game would have been a toss up imo.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I just remembered that the 2006 Worlds "Bronze" team had many of the same superstars minus Kobe
    that team also didn't have Jason Kidd, so I guess team USA couldn't have won gold without him either.

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    While you're at it ask Lebronze and Dimcan why they couldn't win it in 04'
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,103479

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    I am not a big fan of Kobe, but there is no way the US beats Spain in that final without him. He took over everything in the end, when everybody else was hiding and re-living the 2006 debacle with Greece.

    And he did this after spending the whole summer setting up the defensive at ude of the team. Let's remember one thing, Chuck was the top scorer of the Dream Team. But is there any doubt that if the games were close the ball was going to Jordan??? The same logic should be applied here. People rushed to congratulate Melo after some great scoring games in 2006 but he was just as lost as everyone against Greece. Point being, that in these US teams there are a lot of scorer and the best scorer is not necessarily the best player. When it mattered most Kobe did what he had to do, after making sure that the team was great defensively, unlike years past.

    So, NO, USA doesn't win without Kobe this year.

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    Dwyane Wade was easily the best player for the US in the tournament. He made the most out of his minutes, shooting very efficiently from the field. Kobe attempted two shots in the final minutes. One was the 4-point play, the other was a horrible shot. As soon as he went down the court he just shot a three, enabling the Spanish to once again get back in the game. Kobe's defensive efforts were great, but there were times when he gambled way too much. Rudy's amazing dunk happened because Kobe tried to go for the steal, and well failed. In this Olympics, Kobe made some amazing plays, but he also made horrible plays.

    If there was no Kobe, we could've won it, no doubt. While everyone is giving Coach K so much praise, I thought he did a bad job with his lineups. And I'm a Duke fan. I just think his coaching is suited for the college game, not the international game. I wished Deron Williams could've handled the point by himself, not with Chris Paul always. And again, the US didnt run enough pick and roll plays. A LeBron, Kobe, Wade coming off a pick is always deadly.

    And who was hiding? Wade sure wasnt hiding with his three. Kobe always has this mindset that he has to take over, meaning not passing the ball to others.

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    LeBron certainly seemed a bit scared to me, so was Melo. True about Wade, but he did most of his damage early.

    Again, even if Wade was the top scorer throughout the tournament it means very little in terms of who the best player is. Scoring a bunch of points against some pushover teams is not that amazing of a feat. Again, Chuck was the top scorer in 92 but we all know who the best player on the team was.

    Kobe was the best player in the final, and even semi-final I would argue, so yeah he showed in the biggest stage of them all.

    As for rotations, I agree with you. As good as Paul is, I think Deron is just better suited for the FIBA game because of his size and his better jumper.

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    While you're at it ask Lebronze and Dimcan why they couldn't win it in 04'
    oh LJ was 19.

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