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    I don't know about you, but I control a of a lot of the variables in my own living room. In my whole apartment, in fact.

    And of course smoking pot would impair your driving, but that doesn't really prove your point. Driving while high would be an irresponsible choice. Conversely, not driving while high would be a responsible choice. Same with flailing about your coffee table.
    you're not always left with a choice is my point, even if you think that might be the case.

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    life pushes you into certain situation where, sadly, driving while high is the best of the coices you have, maybe the only one.

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    I drive better high, slower, less road rage, less stress.

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    not me. I guess it depends on the person then.

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    The only bad thing about weed... is that it's illegal.....

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    I don't think parents should smoke (anything) or drink (more than one or two) in front of their kids because kids do what they see - they are little behaviour-learning sponges. This is not opinion, it's child psychology.

    Get them to an age, say 10-12, where you can start to educate them and discuss these things, but doing these things around them at a young age is just programming them to do the same things, and in the case of mind-altering addictive* substances, that seems unwise to me.

    * yes, I am aware that THC is not physically addictive, but it certainly has the power to be psychologically addictive. Alcohol can also very quickly become addictive. And nicotine is close to the most addictive substance we know of.

    And as for the illegality of ganja, thankfully where I come from it is not illegal (it is decriminalised - possession of under 1 ounce might get you a speeding-fine equivalent, as will smoking in public). I find the legal double standard regarding alcohol and marijuana to be completely absurd. Legalise it, tax at, and put all the money back into health.
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    Do you guys who smoke pot and have kids, encourage them to smoke weed too?

    Do guys get high infront of them?

    Do you guys smoke with them?




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    I only smoke with my two year old when my stash is burnt and i have to bum off his...

    i don't encourage him. that would mean less for me.

    in front of him? behind him? who the knows, he runs everywhere and around the whole house bumping into things when he's toked...

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    When I would deliver pizza I would always smell weed in the house and a young punk would answer the door with kids running around inside. I wanted to puke.

    see, the thing is...he had money to throw away on weed and pizza...and your tip...not to mention the cost of diapers these days...be thankful!

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    I only smoke with my two year old when my stash is burnt and i have to bum off his...

    i don't encourage him. that would mean less for me.

    in front of him? behind him? who the knows, he runs everywhere and around the whole house bumping into things when he's toked...

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    Is that meant to be funny? It may be my lack of a sense of humour, but I don't think it is, not when there are videos on you chew of parents who have fad ecstasy to their children or gotten stoned.

    Marijuana and kids don't mix - all the science suggests that THC (and amphetamines) does serious damage to developing brains. I'm glad I didn't sample the wares until I was 22 (the adult male brain doesn't stop developing until very late teens/early 20s).

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    If you're high and mentally impaired you put yourself at a higher risk of not being able to solve these problems.

    you see, you are only viewing things from a point of view where which smoking weed impairs someone mentally...and that just isn't always the case...

    sometimes medicine like sweet sweet herb is for what ails ya. (or is it sweat sweat?)

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    Is that meant to be funny? It may be my lack of a sense of humour, but I don't think it is, not when there are videos on you chew of parents who have fad ecstasy to their children or gotten stoned.

    Marijuana and kids don't mix - all the science suggests that THC (and amphetamines) does serious damage to developing brains. I'm glad I didn't sample the wares until I was 22 (the adult male brain doesn't stop developing until very late teens/early 20s).
    no i'm dead serious. the lil one is hittin the bong right now as we read your post and laugh delirously...it really adds entertainment value to the likes of spongebob squarepants, blues clues, and bunnytown, not to mention that that hottie icarly seems 18 going on 21 when your stoned...

    and don't go preachin against givin toddlers da smoke unless your gonna preach against all the ADD meds they give out to the kindergardeners too!

    but if you are a champion in the "our kids are overmedicated by irresponsible parents and self-interest legal drug pusher doctors..." then as you were, hail aussies!

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    The thing is, as long as you don't live in a vacuum, getting high is irresponsible, or potentially irresponsible, which in my mind is being irresponsible. Things or situations that you can't predict sometimes intersect with your life when you least expect them to. If you're high and mentally impaired you put yourself at a higher risk of not being able to solve these problems.

    This doesn't mean I don't smoke weed. I'm just not afraid to admit I'm being impairing my judgement, and usually whenever, wherever you do that you're being irresponsible.
    When you're asleep you're mentally impaired and bad things that you can't predict can happen to you too, skippy. I don't think he was talking about smoking weed while driving or operating heavy machinery.

    But then again, you may be right. Those horrible marijuana impaired couch-to-refrigerator preventable accidents are a ing epidemic.

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    no i'm dead serious. the lil one is hittin the bong right now as we read your post and laugh delirously...it really adds entertainment value to the likes of spongebob squarepants, blues clues, and bunnytown, not to mention that that hottie icarly seems 18 going on 21 when your stoned...

    and don't go preachin against givin toddlers da smoke unless your gonna preach against all the ADD meds they give out to the kindergardeners too!

    but if you are a champion in the "our kids are overmedicated by irresponsible parents and self-interest legal drug pusher doctors..." then as you were, hail aussies!
    Okay, I can see that you're kidding.

    As for the overprescription of dexies, I'm with you. They can be very useful for real sufferers of ADD (I know one, now an adult, and he says they help him a lot), but there is no doubt that parents and doctors and pill companies have conspired, put bad behaviour in the too hard basket, and now massively over-prescribe meds to kids who in most cases just need some bloody DISCIPLINE.

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    I drive better high, slower, less road rage, less stress.
    That just means that you are a complete dumb ass ing re ed driver when you're sober. Anyone who believes they actually drive better under the influence of a mind and perception altering substance must be such a ing bad driver that they should never be allowed to touch a steering wheel again.

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    It's not difficult to drive well sober, you just have to be a responsible person who isn't a ing basket case. Unfortunately there aren't many of those around.

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    just need some bloody DISCIPLINE.

    bloody discipline!!!

    Is that meant to be funny? It may be my lack of a sense of humor, but I don't think it is, not when there are videos on you chew of parents who beat the out their children!

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    How in the can people be scared to death of such stupid ass as public speaking or going up to meet a stranger of the opposite sex but be completely oblivious to driving a ing 2,500+ lbs machine with the power to kill you instantly like a completely impatient ing asshole?

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    who isn't a ing basket case.

    well you see, you threw that caveat in there for a reason brah...cuz you know something we do...

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    well you see, you threw that caveat in there for a reason brah...cuz you know something we do...
    Actually, I was wrong. You don't have to be responsible or not be a basket case. You just have to be smart enough to not want to die instantly. And yet, that's a difficult quality to find behind the wheel.

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    This post is a buzz kill.

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    I guess large shards of glass, metal, and plastic instantly piercing your skull, breaking your bones, tearing your flesh, and spilling your guts out in an act of instant death just isn't a good deterrent.

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    Actually, I was wrong. You don't have to be responsible or not be a basket case. You just have to be smart enough to not want to die instantly. And yet, that's a difficult quality to find behind the wheel.


    you see, i was thinking about this earlier, and my football team was losing...as always...and it was a slow, grinding loss...like someone just turning that knife in you, but it's not into any vital organs...and i thought...i'd rather just ing die and be done with it...and instant death>long agonizing one...as long as all your affairs are in order and ...

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    bloody discipline!!!

    Is that meant to be funny? It may be my lack of a sense of humor, but I don't think it is, not when there are videos on you chew of parents who beat the out their children!
    Yeah, that would work except it doesn't...

    Hit a child and you teach them that violence is an appropriate way to get what you want. That is not teaching them discipline.

    OTOH, teaching a child discipline involves explaining to them what they did wrong and punishing them appropriately through denial of privileges and such.

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    you see, i was thinking about this earlier, and my football team was losing...as always...and it was a slow, grinding loss...like someone just turning that knife in you, but it's not into any vital organs...and i thought...i'd rather just ing die and be done with it...and instant death>long agonizing one...as long as all your affairs are in order and ...
    If I had to watch the Redskins tonight I'd have preferred instant skull piercing death as well, but that is one of those rare, rare occasions. The Redskins are just that bad.

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    Yeah, that would work except it doesn't...

    Hit a child and you teach them that violence is an appropriate way to get what you want. That is not teaching them discipline.

    OTOH, teaching a child discipline involves explaining to them what they did wrong and punishing them appropriately through denial of privileges and such.
    Best way to punish your kid is to take away his ciggies.

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