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    Those things would be cause for concern, if any of them happened.

    As it is, the only problem here is that he didn't have a background check. And while the White House should definitely be held responsible for that, it seems that you guys want to read more into it than is there. Once again, Bush haters have created a laughable and easily debunkable conspiracy theory out of a legitimate concern that may never get discussed because it's being overshadowed by idiocy.
    First of all, the reason its not being more widely discussed is because it has largely been ignored by the MSM who have a lot to lose if Gannon turns out to be a another W.H. payola reporter. It's not just the credibility of Talon News that is at risk here, its the credibility of the MSM as a whole, and how so many MS reporters we are coming to find, are willing to themselves to the administration.

    Jeff Gannon was wasn't just a independent reporter who was lucky enough to get regular day passes to important WH briefings, and regularly called upon by Scotty and W when they needed a softball question the most as Sperminator would have us believe. Fact is, there was nothing real about Gannon. His name wasn't real, his credentials sure as weren't real, his reporting wasn't real. He works directly for a big-time Republican lobbyists who has regularly been tied by bloggers to desiminating right-wing propaganda through various news sources under his control.

    The whole pimping himself on the net just gives this story a angle that should be irrestible to the MSM, but have we seen nearly a peep from the s?

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    Dan, you are so incredibly full of it! If any media outlet had any proof of ANYTHING they would be running into the streets shouting at the top of their lungs for all to hear. Do you actually believe they are trying to cover something up? If you do, you are either a fool, or much more blinded by your hatred than I thought was possible. You complaining that the MSM (as you love to say) is covering this up is like the Lakers of old complaining about the refs. It's total BS!.

    Marzetti, what the are you talking about? Calling for Bush's impeachment? For what? What did he do? Bring some evidence over from the world you live in to the real one before you go calling for someone's head. As it stands right now, all that anyone knows is that a reporter that recieved a White House press pass has used a fake name and registered a few domains for web sites that have les that seem to be adult themed. Whoopty-doo!!! What ridiculous conspiracy is involved here? Oh yeah, Bush is gay right? He is Osama's gay lover? They had a fight and that's what caused 9/11? He's exchanging press passes for sex with men? PFFFFFTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

    The reason Clinton was impeached was not for his recieving a blow job in the White House. He was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH! It was a stupid mistake, by he still lied under oath. He should just have admitted it and then there would be nothing to it.

    Ok guys! Here's your chance! Post some real evidence of wrong doing. I'd like to see it. Since no one can even tell me what Bush did that was wrong, maybe some real and actual evidence would clear it up for me.
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    Bush should be impeached because someone on his staff didn't do their homework?

    WTF is that?




    If that's how it works, my kids' teachers should be in deep right about now...

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    Jeff Gannon was wasn't just a independent reporter who was lucky enough to get regular day passes to important WH briefings, and regularly called upon by Scotty and W when they needed a softball question the most as Sperminator would have us believe.
    The only thing that I would "have us believe" is what we actually know to be true. Conjecture is fun, but it's useless.

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    How all you conservative Dubya lovers cannot see how wrong this is is beyond me. You guys would be screaming all kinds of BS if Clinton had done this.

    Sean Hannity and Rush Limpballs have quoted this idiot as reputable source and he's nothing but a porno freak.

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    It is wrong. But for reasons that you guys are glossing over so you can pleasure yourselves with the possibility of something more diabolical.

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    How all you conservative Dubya lovers cannot see how wrong this is is beyond me. You guys would be screaming all kinds of BS if Clinton had done this.

    Sean Hannity and Rush Limpballs have quoted this idiot as reputable source and he's nothing but a porno freak.
    What I find so funny, is how you can quote all of these "conservative media" outlets. I don't ever listen to political TV or radio shows.

    Again, provide some proof here. You have nothing because there is nothing.
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    I'm getting slow. I saw this story on the news this morning and how this guy got to do his thing is beyond me.
    But I thought I heard the White House admit they knew his real name and he was more or less planted to ask questions that would make Bush look good.
    An embarrassment in the least.

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    I'm getting slow. I saw this story on the news this morning and how this guy got to do his thing is beyond me.
    But I thought I heard the White House admit they knew his real name and he was more or less planted to ask questions that would make Bush look good.
    An embarrassment in the least.
    An embarrassment in the most. Dan would have you believe that the guy is Osama or something.

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    I don't think anything wrong was done other than using bad judgement.

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    I don't think anything wrong was done other than using bad judgement.

    No more, no less.


    Does anyone really think the Bush Administration is the only people to EVER do this? That they invented the concept?

    Puh-leeze.

    It seems ridiculous and yeah, I'd be embarrassed to get busted at it too....but my only concern would be Bush's (and other's) safety by not being extra-careful about who they are letting inside the White House.

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    but my only concern would be Bush's (and other's) safety by not being extra-careful about who they are letting inside the White House.
    The only threat to Bush's safety is condom or no condom. If Jeffrey was at the WH every day, as suggested, he was a little closer than a press briefing. More like a de-briefing.

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    What bull ! The only circle jerking that is going on is by the people in this thread that shoot their wad at every wild accusation and conspiracy theory.

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    Not so wild, User. Mainstream Canada press has him hitting on Scott Reid, assistant to Canada's PM. These rumors keep popping up. If you'd like to read the dialogue of the "incomplete pass", type the following into Google. There are some blogs and Canadian news outlets.

    bush canada scott pretty face

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    Liberal’ Media Silent About Guckert Saga
    by Joe Conason


    Proof that "the liberal media" is but a figment of right-wing mythology has now arrived in the person of one James Guckert, formerly known as Jeff Gannon. Were the American media truly liberal—or merely unafraid to be called liberal—the saga of Mr. Guckert’s short, strange, quasi-journalistic career would be resounding across the airwaves.

    The intrinsic media interest of the Guckert/Gannon story should be obvious to anyone who has followed his tale, which touches on hot topics from the sexual underground and the investigation into the outing of C.I.A. agent Valerie Plame to the political power of the Internet. But our supposedly liberal media becomes quite squeamish when reporting anything that might humiliate the Bush White House and the Republican Party.

    Until very recently, Mr. Guckert served as the White House correspondent for Talon News, a Web site owned and operated by a group of Texas Republican activists who also run a highly partisan site called GOPUSA.com. Mr. Guckert resigned from his Talon job after liberal bloggers exposed his ties to Web sites promoting sexual pros ution. On Valentine’s Day, AmericaBlog.org posted new evidence indicating that Mr. Guckert not only constructed those gay-play-for-pay sites, but worked as a male escort himself—and continued to do so until he got his first White House press pass in 2003.

    Using his "Jeff Gannon" alias, Mr. Guckert soon became a familiar face in the briefing room, where White House press secretary Scott McClellan would call on him as "Jeff." No doubt Mr. McClellan welcomed his mushy-soft, Democrat-baiting questions.

    George W. Bush called on him during his most recent press conference—a signal honor for a reporter from an obscure Internet publication, and quite a surprise to the dozens of actual reporters bypassed by Mr. Bush on Jan. 26.

    Mr. Guckert’s archived writings suddenly disappeared from the Talon News Web site, but several of his greatest works have been preserved by the watchdogs at MediaMatters.org. They show that he had no journalistic purpose, let alone experience. His copy featured long passages lifted directly from White House press releases. Last year, during the Internet frenzy over Senator John Kerry’s "intern girlfriend," he falsely wrote that the young woman had "taped an interview with one of the major television networks at Christmas substantiating the alleged affair."

    He also made a curious cameo appearance in the Valerie Plame controversy. In late 2003, Mr. Guckert called former Ambassador Joseph Wilson. During that interview, the Talon correspondent mentioned a C.I.A. do ent that supposedly showed Ms. Plame had dispatched Mr. Wilson, her husband, on a government mission to Niger to investigate rumored Iraqi uranium purchases. That allegation was meant to discredit the former ambassador, who had exposed White House intelligence abuses. Administration leaks to the press about Ms. Plame’s C.I.A. work are currently under investigation by a special prosecutor.

    What Mr. Guckert seems to have been is not a journalist but a Republican dirty trickster. He was schooled at the Leadership Ins ute—an outfit run by veteran right-wing operative and Republican National Committee member Morton Blackwell. (It was Mr. Blackwell who distributed those cute "purple heart" Band-aids mocking Mr. Kerry’s war wounds at the Republican convention last summer.) His former employers at Talon News include leading Republican fund-raisers and former officials of the Texas Republican Party who have been active in partisan affairs for the past two decades.

    How did this character obtain a coveted place in the White House? What did the White House press staff know about him? How does his story fit within the larger scandal of payola punditry, with federal funds subsidizing Republican propagandists in the press corps? Did someone in the Bush administration give him a classified do ent?

    Such questions are evidently of little concern to our liberal media outlets, whose leading lights prefer to deliver prim lectures about the unwarranted invasion of Mr. Guckert’s private affairs and his victimization for his conservative views. In fact, everything known about him comes from material he posted on public Web sites, but that’s beside the point.

    Imagine the media explosion if a male escort had been discovered operating as a correspondent in the Clinton White House. Imagine that he was paid by an outfit owned by Arkansas Democrats and had been trained in journalism by James Carville. Imagine that this gentleman had been cultivated and called upon by Mike McCurry or Joe Lockhart—or by President Clinton himself. Imagine that this "journalist" had smeared a Republican Presidential candidate and had previously claimed access to classified do ents in a national-security scandal.

    Then imagine the constant screaming on radio, on television, on Capitol Hill, in the Washington press corps—and listen to the placid mumbling of the "liberal" media now
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    Apparently the far right does not have the market cornered on sheer stupidity.

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    So the guys a phoney? Good riddance then.

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    That there is even a hint that President Bush is a closet sexual is not only downright ridiculous - it is highly offensive!

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    It doesn't even matter, if that's the issue trying to be made, then so what.

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    Apparently the far right does not have the market cornered on sheer stupidity.
    Apparently, this post should be included in my Irony Post from a couple of days ago.


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    That there is even a hint that President Bush is a closet sexual is not only downright ridiculous - it is highly offensive!
    However, it was OK to speculate about all sorts of misgivings about President Clinton without any proof, right? The accusations against Clinton were true conspiracy theories because they were based largely on right-wing fantasy. The Gannon affair has been largely based on highly researched evidence and the adminstrations own admissions.

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    It doesn't even matter, if that's the issue trying to be made, then so what.
    Hey dumbass. This is a intelligence failure of the highest degree by a administration that supposedly prides itself on it's ability of protect our national interests.

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    I don't care about Clinton. You still have no proof of anything more than what I stated earlier. A security failure that he is a terrorist? That he planned to kill the president? So he is a fishy character, does he even have a criminal history?

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    That there is even a hint that President Bush is a closet sexual is not only downright ridiculous - it is highly offensive!
    Boy, are you ever naieve. Rumors of man love have dogged W since his college days. It's WAY more than just this incident. Maybe that's why GOP cake boy Rick Perry was picked to succeed him. It's always good to have a couple of switch hitters back to back in your lineup.

    Smoke -------> Fire

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    Am I the only one who really doesn't care one way or the other, but finds themselves pitying those who do?

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