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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Right now, the current setup of tipping for customer service jobs works out well because employees can get away with underreporting their cash tips, and thus avoid paying income taxes on them. It's technically illegal, but unenforceable.

    That may change based upon recent court rulings. The IRS may gain the authority to tax tip recipients based upon an estimate of cash tips derived from restaurants sales and credit card tips.

    If that ever comes to pass, the practice of using tips as the primary means of employee compensation for waitstaff and other customer service jobs may diminish significantly.

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    If that ever comes to pass, the practice of using tips as the primary means of employee compensation for waitstaff and other customer service jobs may diminish significantly.
    Wrong! Tips is a way for those types of employees to make more than an employer would ever be willing to pay and keep prices the same. Most of the people who work on tips make at least $15/hr, and for a student that's not bad. Take away tips and those employees will make 7-8 hr, can you imagine the ty service we would get?

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    Because criticizing the United States politics means that we are ungrateful of what american soldiers did 60 years ago?
    You must be kidding.
    Do you think that Roosevelt foreign policy is the same as the current administration one?
    I can assure you that if you ask to people in France what they think about Roosevelt, Kennedy, Wilson or Clinton, they will all have good words for what they have done.
    Do you prefer blind allies who follow you in the worst decision you make (assuming that you agree that the USA can be wrong), or countries that prefer warn you that you may be commiting a fault?

    The second part of your post is absoulutly astonishing. How can you imagine that the current France reaction about war in Iraq is dictated by the muslim population?
    Unfortunately, as in most developed countries, the muslim are among the poorest people in France and they can't climb the social ladder that easily.
    They have the low-paid jobs and their power to influence the decisions of the country are relatively small.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    I managed a nightclub for about five years, and have been in the bar and restaurant business for about ten. For the most part people from out of country did tip. Not extravagantly, but they did, knowing that it's what people do here. The ones that didn't usually came around when they realized that they were waiting longer than everyone else.

    It would be nice if waitstaff was paid $8-10 an hour, but trust me, your service would suffer. It wouldn't be from lack of motivation...it would be from both from lack of quality employees and less servers on the floor. Also, the pricing of items on the menu would increase. People are pretty motivated when they know instant gratification, in the form of cash, is at hand.

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    come on manu you got a 51 million deal and you can't even giva tip??!!
    dear god have some compassion will you we don't make the kind of money you do!!!!

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    18% tip in some restaurants is outrageous!

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    Damn... 3 pages on tips...

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    Get Off Ma Tip.

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    18% tip in some restaurants is outrageous!
    then you can't afford to go to those restaurants.

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    then you can't afford to go to those restaurants.
    exactly, if you can't afford to tip at least 15% then you should be eating at home or sticking to fast food joints..

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    one thing to note... in europe if you are going to frequent a restaurant, tip and you will be greatly rewarded and remembered. there will never not be a seat for you in the restaurant no matter how full it is. i remembering walking into restaurants many times and seeing the people in front turned away, then being seated 2 seconds later. the people would look at me evil! hahaha...

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    one thing to note... in europe if you are going to frequent a restaurant, tip and you will be greatly rewarded and remembered. there will never not be a seat for you in the restaurant no matter how full it is. i remembering walking into restaurants many times and seeing the people in front turned away, then being seated 2 seconds later. the people would look at me evil! hahaha...
    True here, too.

    My favorite Mexican food place always piles on the food, stuffs the taco or gets things out to me super quick. I've been going there for years and always reward them for that extra service.

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    now, to lighten things up a bit here...


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    First, it's a joke that many people (See SpursWoman's first post) would get because they saw me right after it happend.

    Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging.

    Anything else?
    tipping is bull . it should never be expected. it's a travesty that businesses use it as a way of shortchanging their staff.

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    Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a ty payday.

    If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.
    What I can't understand is why people working in jobs dependent on tips get so pissed about getting stiffed. When you accept the position, you know you're accepting a lower wage in the chance you can make more than minimum wage. Getting stiffed is a part of the risk. Live with it. Don't come crying to us for pity when you get stiffed. If you don't like it, get another job.

    Damn, this is like a telemarketer complaining b/c callers yelling at them for calling. If you can't take the heat, then leave.
    Last edited by Louae; 02-13-2005 at 02:34 AM.

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    Actually, you DO pay taxes on tips.
    Well, at least the tips you report.

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    He actually had a rep with the vallets because he never tips and we did several events he attended. It's weird, but he has to know by this time.

    Anyhow, one day somene is going to remember the non tip and his car is going to be parked under 200 pigeons with the top down. And thatmy friend, is not going to be pretty!
    You're a valet. That's your job. To park the in' cars.

    You know, I could understand tipping a bartender for a stiff drink or giving you prompt service in a crowded bar. I can even understand tipping a waiter great for being very attentive and friendly. But a valet? Come on, all you do is park the in' car. I've never understood why anybody would tip the valet unless they request you to do something extra. Otherwise, park the in' car.

    Next, I'll hear you complaining about people not tipping the cashier at HEB for giving me back the correct change.
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    Wrong! Tips is a way for those types of employees to make more than an employer would ever be willing to pay and keep prices the same. Most of the people who work on tips make at least $15/hr, and for a student that's not bad. Take away tips and those employees will make 7-8 hr, can you imagine the ty service we would get?
    Not true. If service was ty, I would take my business elsewhere.

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    You're a valet. That's your job. To park the in' cars.

    You know, I could understand tipping a bartender for a stiff drink or giving you prompt service in a crowded bar. I can even understand tipping a waiter great for being very attentive and friendly. But a valet? Come on, all you do is park the in' car. I've never understood why anybody would tip the valet unless they request you to do something extra. Otherwise, park the in' car.

    Next, I'll hear you complaining about people not tipping the cashier at HEB for giving me back the correct change.
    But you've never been a vallet have you?

    Well, if you ever valet park, you'll understand.

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    But you've never been a vallet have you?

    Well, if you ever valet park, you'll understand.
    And if I had, you'd think I'd understand your pain.

    Give me a break.

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    I've gotten different answers from different people.


    Am I supposed to tip the girls at Sonic?

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    The college student who didn't get tipped had a right to complain. He doesn't have a whole section of restauranteurs to wait on to perhaps balance a bad tip. How many cars will he have a chance to return to their drivers? I truly have no idea. My guess is that Manu didn't know any better. He seems to be a decent person.

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    I've gotten different answers from different people.


    Am I supposed to tip the girls at Sonic?
    Of course, and extra tip for roller skates or short shorts....

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    Of course, and extra tip for roller skates or short shorts....
    Is it just me or is the ability to pay by credit/debit card at the speaker feel in some way like trying to stiff the roller girls?

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