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i just read he doesn't want to postpone the debate friday.
i assume you were referring to me. replying without quoting the post is so like your self proclaimed "irrelevant" one here, but let me get to the "matter" at hand.
Man people are incapable of saying something is complete politics when its so obvious thats what it is. THE MAN WASN'T EVEN PLANNING ON VOTING ON THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK AND NOW HE'S SUPERMAC am I RIGHT?
i really don't see me giving mccain any accolades to anybody. i believe i wrote "two jackasses".
i just read he doesn't want to postpone the debate friday.
It wasn't in reference to you. You made it clear you thought they were both doing a ty job of things at the moment.
Something like 93% of the population is AGAINST the bailout. A prominent politician actually votes "NO"- and he'll beat anybody that voted for it over the head with that vote.
The entire congress has got to be running scared right about now. , I'll make the ad - pictures of CEO's; followed by their salaries; then a picture of (insert congressman here) with the statment HE?SHE bailed THEM ALL OUT!!!!! Sell that to every challenger out there - just give me a .jpg of the candidate you're opposing.
Obama calls McCain to propose the joint statement. McCain decides to one up him and starts the plan to suspend his campaign. 6 hours later, he calls Obama to agree to the joint statement. A few minutes after that, McCain releases his statement about suspending his campaign.
Sneaky little , that McCain.
CNN reporting as well...look man, I work from home a lot and have the TV on...I'm not going to searching for a link 2 mins after they say it.
how is either campaign run without?
ing exactly. You throw in that republicans don't want McCain having to run opposite of his party's vote and that democrats dont' want to give McCain any fodder to use based on this situation and you have the reason for what is happening in congress.
Of course you could always subscribe to the theory that they al really really really value McCain's opinion on the subject.
CNN is saying he wants to go ahead with the debate, NOT that he is agaisnt suspending his campaign.
Why should Obama suspend his campaign? As long as he doesn't miss any votes, what the does it matter?
McCain is continuing to campaign by "suspending his campaign."
Well, 101, youre very different than most conservatives on this forum. Its my impression that you may be partisan but that you will not be lead blindly, red or blue.
Can you say the same of the resident liberals/conservatives here? I think not.
go ahead with the debate...i.e. - not suspend the campaign.
What element of his campaign is he suspending exactly?
I think its a gamble either way for Obama. McCain def put the ball back in his court after fumbling it for the past week. Now Obama has to decide whether or not people will see through this McCain stunt. If they think that people will see through it, then you continue to campaign. If not then you have to meet him in DC ASAP to remove the wind for the sails, but then you've made it look like he's taking the iniative and driving the resolution.
Its a tough spot for Obama.
Look, I'm not that blind. Every move has a political reason behind it.
go ahead with the debate IE go ahead with the debate.
All of this is immaterial. The bill will be passed and it will spell doom for this economy.
Its another attempt at kicking the can down the road.
The average American NEEDS to get their ass kicked. We've been living on Monopoly credit/money for almost 15 years and somehow this isnt supposed to bite in the ass?
The experience a non-bailout situation would give your average American would guarantee nothing like this would happen again for at least another 70 years. Maybe, just ing maybe, balancing a budget might become more important than moral issues meant to distract your dumb, ADD ass like abortion or gay marriage.
Cull the herd, I say.
Obama called McCain to ask about issuing a joint statement on the economy. McCain agreed and then went to the tv cameras to announce he was suspending his campaign and wanted to postpone the debate. Sorry, this is a dumb idea. Can't people walk and chew gum at the same time?
Move the debate to Washington is you need to, issue a joint statement of principles if you want to act non-partisan, re-focus the debate on the economy if you think that makes sense.
But the idea that these two guys can't take a few hours out of their schedules on a Friday night to debate is just idiotic. Neither of them chairs a committee that has any responsibility for overseeing the bailout.
BTW, George Bush gets a big ing F for the way he's handling things right now. Someone tell the asshole he's still president and he can't check out just yet.
"CNN is reporting that the Obama camp called for a joint Obama/McCain message at 8:30 this morning, and then the McCain camp turned around at 2:30 pm with this bombs . WTF, indeed."
It's worse than that - Obama contacted McCain's camp at 8:30, McCain returned his call at 2:30 agreeing to the move and leaving it to the campaigns to hammer out the details...and then literally 15 minutes later put out his own statement suspending his campaign.
In short, Obama tried to do this in a nonpoliticized way, and McCain agreed, then immediately tried to publicly seize initiative on the issue.
Totally agree...part of me hopes that McCain will go in there and shoot the whole thing down.that'll never happen with ANY of these politicians though.
I completely agree that what you write is the reality of the situation.
That being said, since when does reality matter in an election? Its all about perception.
It's very simple.
Obama cannot focus on the quan y of facts of the bailout issue and vcampaign at the same time. If he votes, they are either uninformed votes, or voting as someone else tells him he should.
If Obama harps on thsi it looks even more political. , it seems as though McCain just upped the ante with this move. I just have no idea how it could play out.
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