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I guess we'd have to wait for Iraq to come liberate us?
I'm curious, what do you think would happen if our military was non existant?
I guess we'd have to wait for Iraq to come liberate us?
I don't know what would happen to the military, but I'd do my part to vote the politicians out of office who enacted such generous legislation.
I'm sure saddam would have loved to "liberate" the U.S.
god damnit. people need to open their eyes and see things for what they are. the military is what it is. it is a driving force that is here to protect us and keep us from ending up like the iraqis and . we are free because we faught for it in the past and won. and we are now trying to help other become free. the military is a god damn fine ins ion and service to each and everyone of us americans.
and I now see my way out of this thread.
if you only serve 2 years in the military you don't get all the education benefits...
Blame America!!! Blame America!!!
First the guard and reserves, then the Marines, now the Army is falling short of recruitment goals...
Yahoo NewsThe active-duty Army is in danger of failing to meet its recruiting goals, and is beginning to suffer from manpower strains like those that have dropped the National Guard and Reserves below full strength, according to Army figures and interviews with senior officers .
For the first time since 2001, the Army began the fiscal year in October with only 18.4 percent of the year's target of 80,000 active-duty recruits already in the pipeline. That amounts to less than half of last year's figure and falls well below the Army's goal of 25 percent.
Meanwhile, the Army is rushing incoming recruits into training as quickly as it can. Compared with last year, it has cut by 50 percent the average number of days between the time a recruit signs up and enters boot camp. It is adding more than 800 active-duty recruiters to the 5,201 who were on the job last year, as attracting each enlistee requires more effort and monetary incentives.
Driving the manpower crunch is the Army's goal of boosting the number of combat brigades needed to rotate into Iraq (news - web sites) and handle other global contingencies. Yet Army officials see worrisome signs that young American men and women -- and their parents -- are growing wary of military service, largely because of the Iraq conflict.
Oops Dan, you left this part out from that article.....
Also, if you read the article, any worries to projected short falls are in part do to the fact that the army is getting larger.Army officials say the challenge is not yet a crisis. As of Jan. 31, the Army tallied 22,246 active-duty recruits for fiscal 2005, exceeding the year-to-date mission by more than 100.
Actually, new recruit volunteer numbers have been down for some time, but fewer active divisions masked this short-fall..
This is just another step in the drip-drip-dripping away of the most professional fighting force in the world.Still, the recruiting difficulties reflect unprecedented demands on today's soldiers that are unlikely to let up soon. Never before has the all-volunteer Army deployed to war zones in such large numbers for multiple, yearlong tours. It is doing so with a total force cut by 300,000 troops -- from 28 active-duty and reserve divisions to 18 -- since the 1991 Persian Gulf War
28-18 is not real math Dan. Those 28 divisions may have had 5,000 people in each one and the remaining 18 may have 10,000 each. They did a lot of consolidating since then. The snippet I took was from your own article. It siple states they have exceeded their quota for the first month of the year. So either January is a peak month for recruits or there isn't as such a DRAMATIC problem as you seem to imply.
As far as I know, a division has always been a division, about 10,000 soldiers. You chose one quote that supported your argument and completely ignored the rest of the article - nice Fox News reporting.28-18 is not real math Dan. Those 28 divisions may have had 5,000 people in each one and the remaining 18 may have 10,000 each.
Projections, it's all about projections. You must not be an analyst.For the first time since 2001, the Army began the fiscal year in October with only 18.4 percent of the year's target of 80,000 active-duty recruits already in the pipeline. That amounts to less than half of last year's figure and falls well below the Army's goal of 25 percent.
What a dumbass statement. But it is what I would expect of you.
Uhhh....you are the one that chose to ignore the FACT that they are exceeding their goals for the first month of this year. You are the king of cutting and pasting your facts to prove the conspiracy of the moment.
Plans for 'Alternative Service' to the coming military draft are being quietly put in place in churches...
Belief NetBrethren Agree to Revive 'Alternative Service' Draft Programs
Leaders of the Church of the Brethren say they will follow through on a request from the Selective Service to have "alternative service" programs in place for conscientious objectors if a draft is reinstated.
As one of the historic "peace churches" that shun military service, Brethren officials were "cautious" after an unannounced visit by a draft official to a church center in Maryland last October. Officials were worried that the visit signaled that a draft may be at hand.
In follow-up meetings, draft officials urged the church to dust off long-standing "alternative service" programs that allow conscientious objectors to serve in two-year domestic service projects in lieu of military service.
In a meeting Dec. 10, the church's council voted to "maximize our efforts" on alternative service, as well as help "guide our youth in their choice of nonviolent service." Selective Service officials have insisted there are no plans to reinstate the draft, and said Alternative Service Director Cassandra Costley stopped by the Brethren Service Center simply because she was in the area.
Stopped by the church just by chance huh, yeah right.
That is a huge pile of doo Dan.
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