Word Series: Who Will Win?

[ducks]

do you ?

you said price was overrated
I just said not as much as manny

I did not bring about another team just a player that is overrated

the d-backs are not overated
everyone said the dodgers would overtake them in sept due to their cake schedule

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Huh? That most be the most arbitrary definition I have heard in a long time (and I am a Cubs fan).

I'm going to look this up as I go, because the Red Wings and Pistons do count...

Last le by City in the Big 4:

Philadelphia NHL = 1975 (33)
Detroit NHL = 2008 (0)

Philadelphia MLB = 1980 (28)
Detroit MLB = 1984 (24)

Philadelphia NBA = 1983 (25)
Detroit NBA = 2004 (4)

Philadelphia NFL = 1960 (48)
Detroit NFL = 1957 (51)


That's a combined 134 years without a le, or just 25 (1983). Clearly, you were full of and didn't want to admit you were winging it. (It happens to the best of us.)

In your defense, Detroit has been more successful than Philadelphia in living memory.

Put simply: They haven't won a le since '83. There are four major sports teams. Counting labor strike seasons, that's 100 years(seasons) without a le. Detroit would be on a one season drought by January 2009(Lions).

Don't listen to me, listen to PhillyFans:

The Cubs have gone 100 years without a World Series le, but at least their fans have had the Bulls and the Bears, even the Blackhawks, to provide them an occasional ultimate thrill. Philadelphia has gone a combined 100 seasons without a championship in any major professional sport -- 25 fruitless years in a row for the Phillies, Eagles, 76ers and Flyers, easily the longest wait for any of the 13 metropolitan areas with four major professional sports teams. As The Philly Fan relates in the play's final scene, "We are the most loyal goddam fans in the world, and we just want a championship, that's all. That's not askin' a lot. Not when ya got four teams.... When's our turn?"

Just a few more:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ght/index.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...gand-heres-why

And winging it is what I do best.

[FromWayDowntown]

do you ?

you said price was overrated
I just said not as much as manny

I did not bring about another team just a player that is overrated

the d-backs are not overated
everyone said the dodgers would overtake them in sept due to their cake schedule

Yup -- all that stuff about Manny being the best right handed hitter of this generation -- all imagined. And all of those post-season appearances, the 4 World Series appearances, the 2 World Series rings? Never really happened.

Anyone who thinks that Manny Ramirez is a great, great player must have the intelligence of one who thinks that Lebron James is horribly overrated.

[IronMexican]

Ducks is the best poster on ST.

[Reggie Miller]

Put simply: They haven't won a le since '83. There are four major sports teams. Counting labor strike seasons, that's 100 years(seasons) without a le. Detroit would be on a two season drought by January 2009(Tigers, Lions).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ght/index.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...gand-heres-why

And winging it is what I do best.

Huh.

You have to admit that this is a very NOVEL means of measurement. How do you compare cities that do not have teams in all four major sports, etc.?

I blame the previously cited authors/articles that did not demonstrate the benefit of a first rate education. Seriously...

[Reggie Miller]

Yup -- all that stuff about Manny being the best right handed hitter of this generation -- all imagined. And all of those post-season appearances, the 4 World Series appearances, the 2 World Series rings? Never really happened.

Anyone who thinks that Manny Ramirez is a great, great player must have the intelligence of one who thinks that Lebron James is horribly overrated.

You wound me. I think Ramirez is the best RH hitter of his generation, AND I think LBJ is horribly overrated.

Admittedly, I consider myself a better judge of baseball talent.

[Horry For 3!]

I am goin for the Rays. I have been on their bandwagon since 2006.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Huh.

You have to admit that this is a very NOVEL means of measurement. How do you compare cities that do not have teams in all four major sports, etc.?

I blame the previously cited authors/articles that did not demonstrate the benefit of a first rate education. Seriously...

My original comment was just a throwaway comment. I've never thought of a city's sports teams in terms of combining all of their lost seasons.

But whatever keeps PhillyFan pissing and moaning works in my book.

[Reggie Miller]

I have been on the bandwagon for the Tampa Bay area to just get any ol' MLB team since 1989. Local ownership (mostly the St. Pete Times) almost bought the SF Giants, but Bonds went to SF, which scotched the deal. When Miami got the Marlins in 1993, I thought that Bud Selig was going to be assassinated. (Not a bad idea.)

As of today, I have seen more Metallica concerts and Tampa Bay Lightning games in the Sun Coast Dome (now Tropicana Field) than I have seen MLB games.

[Reggie Miller]

My original comment was just a throwaway comment. I've never thought of a city's sports teams in terms of combining all of their lost seasons.

But whatever keeps PhillyFan pissing and moaning works in my book.

Fair enough.

Originally, I honestly thought you were confusing two dubious records: the Cubs' 100 year streak with the Phillies' overall worse NL record.

I actually learned quite a bit from looking into this. For example, I had no idea that the Lions and Eagles had been around for so long.

[dirk4mvp]

You wound me. I think Ramirez is the best RH hitter of his generation, AND I think LBJ is horribly overrated.

Admittedly, I consider myself a better judge of baseball talent.

Who knows, maybe he's just been getting lucky all these years by swinging that stick at the ball.


And after finally reading the article Manny Being Manipulated, I've been brainwashed to believe Manny's demise in Boston is the fault of Scott Boras.

[FromWayDowntown]

Who knows, maybe he's just been getting lucky all these years by swinging that stick at the ball.


And after finally reading the article Manny Being Manipulated, I've been brainwashed to believe Manny's demise in Boston is the fault of Scott Boras.

For all of the villians of baseball, there is perhaps nobody who is a greater villian than Scott Boras. I'm not sure that even Bud Selig or Don Fehr -- for all that they've done poorly -- can hold a candle to the problems that Boras and his ilk create.

[DarkReign]

Ducks is the best poster on ST.

For the illiterate people who havent discovered Spellcheck, yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, we're finally underway with Game 3 at 9:45 EST.

The Philadelphia fans are being real asses during the player intros. What's new?

EDIT: Good grief. We're still not underway. They insist on going through all of the pre-game crap, despite a two-hour delay.

[Reggie Miller]

If the Rays lose this game, lack of effort and execution won't be at issue. Tune in now! This is shaping up to be an awesome game.

[lefty]

Upton is amazing

[Reggie Miller]

Upton is amazing

Upton just single-handedly carried this team into a tie.

[Logan]

Phils Outlast Rain, Rays to Take Edge
By BEN WALKER
PHILADELPHIA (Oct. 25) - First it was wet, then it got wild for the Philadelphia Phillies.
Carlos Ruiz finished off a madcap ninth inning with an infield single with the bases loaded, and the Phillies outlasted the Tampa Bay Rays 5-4 early Sunday in Game 3 of the World Series for a 2-1 lead.
This was midnight madness and then some on a rainy night that pushed the start to 10:06 p.m. and it wrapped up at 1:47 a.m. Ruiz, Chase Utley and Ryan Howard homered for the Phils, but it took three kooky plays to win it.




It all came down to this: Rays reliever J.P. Howell hit Eric Bruntlett with a pitch to start the ninth. Enter Grant Balfour, who threw a wild pitch that caromed off the backstop to catcher Dioner Navarro, whose throw trying to get Bruntlett skipped into center field.
With Bruntlett on third, the Rays issued two intentional walks. Ruiz followed with a nubber down the line and third baseman Evan Longoria charged. He dived for the ball, and rushed an underhanded flip home that sailed over Navarro's head.
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
2008-10-26 01:56:04

[lefty]

Wow

[lefty]

Great 1st inning

[tlongII]

Just how bad have these umps been? They clearly missed the tag at 3rd base.

[lefty]

Just how bad have these umps been? They clearly missed the tag at 3rd base.

Really bad

I thought he wasn't safe

[tlongII]

Baseball definitely needs to expand the use of instant replay.

[lefty]

Baseball definitely needs to expand the use of instant replay.

Yes.

But for that particular play, it wasn't necessary

[ducks]

bad refs
cost the rays game 4
they pressed after the bad calls

rays should be back
I still think they can win it all
they have to relex