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  1. #51
    DEEP in the Q
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    Go Cavs!

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    they're still a one-man show. limit his contributions and the cavs will go down.
    You make it sound easy to do.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    The Cavs are a legit le contender, not le favorite. They're looking up at Boston and LA like everybody else. But they came within an inch of beating the Celtics last year and they're better now. They absolutely belong on the short list of contenders.

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    One man shows NEVER work. You need team balance and the Cavs simply don't have that on both ends of the floor. They are off to a great start, but lots of teams have gotten off to great starts. It's the truly balanced ones with great benches that are able to sustain it, and the Cavs don't have that.

    I'm sorry Cav fan to burst your bubble. Your team is good, don't get me wrong. But you're not beating BOS for best record in the EC and you are going to lose to BOS because you won't have HCA in the playoffs. Wash, rinse, repeat of last season.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    ^ The Cavs have more balance than they did last year. As for being a one-man show, they beat Detroit two years ago because Gibson stepped up. Mo Williams isn't even an All Star, but he can create his own shot, and that's all LeBron needs, somebody who can help keep defenses honest.

    And I don't know where you get the idea that the Cavs are not a good defensive team. As good as Boston? No way. But they've been modeled after the Spurs. Not as good as San Antonio, but that's the model. The Cavs are going to be as tough an out as there is. They came within an inch of beating the Celtics without HCA last year and they're an improved team this season. I agree it's early and we don't award trophies for November and December, but if they're playing like this in April, they're going to definitely make noise and be a factor in the playoffs.
    Last edited by Findog; 12-07-2008 at 03:06 AM.

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    they're still a one-man show. limit his contributions and the cavs will go down.


    Aside from Lebron, they don't have another dependable scoring threat. Don't see how they can contend with teams like Spurs, Lakers, and Celtics who have multiple scoring threats.

    That being said, the Cavs are looking great so far this season. No doubt.

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    You make it sound easy to do.
    truth be told, bruce made it look easy to do a couple of years ago.

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    There will always be at least one team in the NBA that has a truly balanced offensive and defensive attack. The 3-peat Lakers had what I would say was a more potent offense than defense, but their D was still pretty good. The Pistons had incredible defense and a good offense as did the Spurs. The Celtics followed suit. The Cavs have a good defense but their offense is not balanced. It's Lebron, Lebron, Lebron. 90% of teams may not be able to stop that, but the ones that win les can and have and will.

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    There will always be at least one team in the NBA that has a truly balanced offensive and defensive attack. The 3-peat Lakers had what I would say was a more potent offense than defense, but their D was still pretty good. The Pistons had incredible defense and a good offense as did the Spurs. The Celtics followed suit. The Cavs have a good defense but their offense is not balanced. It's Lebron, Lebron, Lebron. 90% of teams may not be able to stop that, but the ones that win les can and have and will.
    Mo Williams is a solid number 2 option. Averging nearly 16 PPG on a solid %. Not to mention 4.4 APG. That alone shows LeBron is not the only option when Williams is accounting for over 25 PPG.

    Ilguaskas is averaging 15-8 in only 26 minutes. Thats probably top 5 production from the Center spot. Hes blocking shots this year too.

    Delonte West has impoved immensley, hes capable of putting up 10-15 points a game. Also in the top 10 in 3 pt shooting.

    Boobie Gibson has improved aswell.

    That team has more than just LeBron

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    D.I.R.T.Y. till we die manufor3's Avatar
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    from the usual help they get from the refs, they could easily win it all this year. easily....
    i agree

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    truth be told, bruce made it look easy to do a couple of years ago.
    You think Bruce did it alone? lol.

    Right now there are two teams with the scheme and the personnel to contain LeBron over a seven-game series: San Antonio and Boston. Maybe Houston, but they probably won't get a chance in that situation anyway. Any other team that talks about containing LeBron is just doing that- talking.

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    I think that anyone who says that the Cavs offense this year is just "Lebron, Lebron, Lebron" isn't watching the games. Or even giving the boxscores more than a cursory glance.

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    If CLE is right with LAL and BOS post All-Star break then we can have this discussion about them being an elite.

    Look I sincerely hope CLE does beat BOS because I think Lakers can legitimately beat the Cavs in a 7 game series. They don't have the stifling defense BOS does and wouldn't be able to keep pace with us offensively.

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    Look I sincerely hope CLE does beat BOS because I think Lakers can legitimately beat the Cavs in a 7 game series. They don't have the stifling defense BOS does and wouldn't be able to keep pace with us offensively.
    The Cavaliers may not play defense at Boston's level- I'm not sure anyone does- but I can assure you that they are a very, very solid defensive ballclub, and they've shown as much in the postseason the last three years. I'd go as far as to say they're an elite defensive club when they're clicking. If you want to wait before buying in to the Cavaliers, that's fine, it's understandable, but if you think they'd just let the Lake Show run a track meet in a best-of-seven series, you've got another thing coming. Be great to find out either way.

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    The Cavs bore me to tears. I hope if the Suns don't make it I rather see the Lakers/Celtics round 2. Or

    Celtics/Hornets
    Spurs/Celtics

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    The Cavs bore me to tears. I hope if the Suns don't make it I rather see the Lakers/Celtics round 2. Or

    Celtics/Hornets
    Spurs/Celtics
    "If?" lol

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    I think that anyone who says that the Cavs offense this year is just "Lebron, Lebron, Lebron" isn't watching the games. Or even giving the boxscores more than a cursory glance.
    +1

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    The Cavs bore me to tears. I hope if the Suns don't make it I rather see the Lakers/Celtics round 2. Or

    Celtics/Hornets
    Spurs/Celtics
    you must not watch the Suns either- they suck, they aren't making the Finals

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