I'm not defensive when somebody criticizes the Spurs in a logical manner..quality posts get a pass from me..but these trolls that melt down after every loss are annoying, and they provide nothing to this forum..
there are only 3 contending teams right now..if you don't consider the Spurs to be a contender, I don't see how anybody could possibly consider the Hornets or Rockets contenders, and not us..those teams have had these same types of losses as we've had, everybody has, except for LA, Boston and Cleveland..
I think there is a correlation in how they end up being seeded in the playoffs, thereby affecting playoff outcomes, based on the wins/losses early in the season. Had the Spurs not gotten off to such a terrific start last year, who knows if they had been able to get HCA in the first round and draw the Suns. We could have easily been in the Suns position without the home crowd's support in Game 1 to pull off the win...
You can't get through to the ultimate cheerleaders because of this ultimate "early season meaningless games" excuse trump card.
They've had to build up a tolerance to the doom-and-gloom trolls though, so it's understandable.
I'm realizing that more and more...the "early season means nothing" card gets used alot around here. I guess the Spurs have earned it considering their history in this decade but, from what I've seen, this team needs some adjustments that I don't know the current roster can make.
Home court is pretty overrated - a single loss at home in a playoff series undoes a whole regular season's worth of effort.
I can understand that in one series, maybe 2...but 4 straight series? If it were that easy, 5-8 seeds would be winning les more frequently. Can you name the last one that did it?
if you don't know how the spurs respond to this adversity, then you don't know anything about the spurs. and considering HCA, the spurs beat the hornets at their homecourt.
As I said before, 1 or 2 series I can see...they didn't win the championship last year though and I think not having homecourt had more than a little to do with that.if you don't know how the spurs respond to this adversity, then you don't know anything about the spurs. and considering HCA, the spurs beat the hornets at their homecourt.
I'm not the ultimate cheerleader really. I think Tony, Manu and Tim are awesome. I think Bowen is not as washed up as people think. But I think that the Spurs C spot is shaky, at best, and their lack of athleticism at the forward spots might hurt them come playoff time. I also think they have some good depth at the point and wings, I think Pop is a HOF coach, and I know their philosophy is about the marathon not the sprint. So I learned not to judge them in December - particularly this year. Tony and Manu aren't even all the way in game shape. So I'd rather wait til March before running around the forum like the sky is falling.
How about some empirical data - here are the Spurs records in their first 25 games since the lockout:
08-09-> 15-10
07-08-> 18-7
06-07-> 19-6 champs
05-06-> 19-6
04-05-> 20-5 champs
03-04-> 15-10
02-03-> 15-10 champs
01-02-> 20-5
00-01-> 16-9
99-00-> 19-7
The early start argument can be presented favorably in a vacuum, but these 08-09 Spurs are not just old, but old old, and the other teams are stacked. Therein lies the problem.
but the Spurs lost to Lakers b/c of HCA - seriously, it does help more than it hurts (don't know all of the statistics - just guessing.) We all knew this was going to be a tough season going into it and there's a lot of work to do. The chemistry is very far from being consistent and that's the key to running off consectutive winning streaks. If we don't get our chemistry together within the next couple of months, we will limp into the playoffs (hopefully) and our chances will be far less than even some of the doubters here believe. This team needs to find a way to allow Manu and TP to be outstanding through chemistry and not by themselves.if you don't know how the spurs respond to this adversity, then you don't know anything about the spurs. and considering HCA, the spurs beat the hornets at their homecourt.
In your analysis, do you also consider that Mason and Hill are new to the team or do you just consider the age of the team as a reason for their results so far?
Granted, Hill and Mason are getting 52 mpg so far, but it doesn't fill me with confidence knowing these two will be relied on to bridge the gap with LA and Boston. Also, the last two games we've been at full strength, and collapsed the first night and were outclassed the 2nd, to two teams who aren't even top tier to begin with. Scary, huh?
Any who, its frustrating following this team in today's NBA climate, so I'm going to take Kori's guidance and lay off them until May.
My harping is just food for thought.
Parker
Ginobili
Bowen
Duncan
Oberto
should be our starting lineup. Perfect balance of Offense and defense.
Mason and Hill would come off the bench and provide offense and defense that is not overwhelming but sufficent. Finley also is a solid backup SF. Maybe we could also make or sign a player to fill that SF-athletic spot.
I dont think Mason or Finley should be starting though.
Hard to judge Orlando as they can be really great one night and really bad the next, but please don't think that NO is not a top tier team in the West. They can beat any team in the West on any given night. They were not playing well against us, but their fire at the end showed that they will be a team to beat in the playoffs just like they were last year. Hill and Mason's minutes are important right now as we try to find their role in the greater scheme. You're kidding yourself if you think that their addition doesn't bridge the gap between last year's team and the increased talent on other teams in the West. We do have a glaring weakness down low at times in regards to athleticism and sometimes when we face a bigger 3, but Mason will prove to be a more consistent scorer than we had last year and Hill will prove to be a tougher defender at the guard pos ion (1 or 2) than we've had as well.
*Will bump during the playoofs*
c'mon, it is pretty obvious to anyone with the ability to look at this team without the homer goggles that this is not a contending team. our offense and our defense aren't anywhere near what they have been in previous years, and don't give me the excuse of oh we are still trying to gel. we have the same key core of players for years, i really don't see how much better you guys are expecting the role players to get. what we see, the inconsistency is pretty much what we are going to have all year. we are not good enough to make it out of the west.
who seriously thinks we can beat LA now when we couldnt even beat them without bynum ? i doubt we could beat the hornets now that they have a guy in james posey who can actually hit clutch jumpers, unlike peja. the rockets are just as good as us or slightly better right now and will only get better as the season goes on. that is just reality folks....
Good lord where are some of these people coming from?
These newer posters all negative all the time it seems.
I think we are further ahead than I thought we would at this time, given Manu's and TP's injuries and integrating the new players into the system.
The Game's new girlfriend is a Laker fan.
I thought the defense was there it has been just the offense needs work and with this team its usually the last thing that comes around.THis team has a habit of working in reverse that way.
Great post
No surprise here.
It's as shaky as a table with three legs, or a massive party with no bottles and one keg, or an omelet for two with one egg. I can only hope that they address it, I know they have to be pondering altering or adding something there. Ian alone may be the answer, it may not. That's all we really need, the rest can be taped and glued.
Exactly...
What a bunch of dumb homers, Just when they tought Manure and Pepe Lepeu were going to lift them, a reality check...what a rude awakening!
Exactly...
What a bunch of dumb homers, Just when they tought Manure and Pepe Lepeu were going to lift them, a reality check...what a rude awakening!
Why don't you go post on a board that gives a . I know you're a worthless troll but your team sucks ass and is not even in the playoffs right now with two hall of fame players on it.
and the Spurs are the ty team? STFU
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