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SJax and Randolph for Manu ???
heu, no.......
Udoka, Vaughn & Oberto for S-JAx & A.Morrow
SJax and Randolph for Manu ???
heu, no.......
let it go head. SJAX coming back to SA is not in the horizon of the SPURS. MANU has done more good to the SPURS than what SJAX can do in his lifetime.
Sjax for Manu?
wow. that's really clueless nonsense.
I know that Sjax is overrated by many Spurs fans, but that idea can only come from a Suns or Mavs fan.
for the record:
Sjax is a good and talented player, like so many others in this league, who deliver some nice numbers, but will never make a team a contender.
on the todays Spurs his impact would be much lower than many here think. he would pretty much take the role of Fin. yes, this would be an upgrade, but never forget the price and that the Spurs might find a player, who fills more needs, if they are willing to pay this price.
(to pay Sjax 10 million when he's 34)
1. Finley a dependable, solid starter? You weren't paying attention to the Spurs from April onward, were you? Because Finley was neither.
2. You have to give up talent to get it, which means throwing in Mahinmi. , you could probably get an Anthony Randolph or Kosta Perovic out of the deal too. Neither fits with Nellieball.
3. Our third PG is Mason. Vaughn? LMAO. You're worried about Vaughn to the point you wouldn't give him up for Buckets? Good lord...
4. Make the team extremely thin? Yeah, having a core of Tony, Hill, Mason, Buckets, Duncan, and Ginobili for the rest of the Tim Duncan era would *suck*.
He had a lot of help in '07 (although he does defend Dirk as well as anybody on our roster).
As for last night - even with that game he is still shooting the ball terribly this year.
$10 million/year after 2010 for a guy who is a #3 or #4 option on a team with championship aspirations? don't get me wrong, he's a nice player - but that's overpaying.
Unless you can answer my question, there is nothing else to say:
What does Jax do better than Manu?
He stays healthy.
And he doesn't have a church, just a legend.
That said, I'm not sure about trading Manu for him.
Damn, that might make me swing in the direction of for the trade, right there.
Manu has missed 45 games over the past 5 seasons. That's an average of 9 games per year missed due to injury.
I don't know why some people are panicking. He had surgery sure, but it will take a few games for him to get back to his usual self.
Since Manu has been in the league he has played a total of 451 games.
In the same time, Jax has played a total of 465.
SjAx's contract is not an albatross but its also not sweet. Given that, the value just isnt there in a swap. I do think the Spurs need to start thinking of getting out from under Manu while the getting is good and his value is still high. He is showing a penchant for getting hurt and that is bad on this side of 30.
Give us a above average starting quality 3 or 4 and trade him.
What is the 2010 plan? Free up a bunch of capspace and then stand around holding our s while all the great FAs sign in more favorable NBA cities?
Here's a bunch of our , now give us your best player.
That doesn't work unless you're the Lakers.
Manu is there when it counts he just got injured last season against the Hornets, but he still played just couldn't attack the rim that's why having some young guys is important, preferrably someone who can create thus the interest in J.R. Smith despite his defensive handi cap. you don't trade Manu for garbage players, you get a need or forget it.
You people realize that if we trade for Jax, Mase probably walks in 2010. The Spurs are NOT going to pay three essentially redundant swingmen, and with Manu and Jax gettin' paid, Mase is the odd man out.
Any GM who had Jax would trade him straight up for Manu in an instant IMO.
Name a GM who you think would trade Manu for Jax straight up.
Case closed.
Bonner is not a 3. Why do people keep insisting that he is?
The 2010 plan is not in favor of San Antonio. Miami, NY, & LA will be ahead of San Antonio.
Do you think JR Smith is better than Jax?
If Manu re-injures his ankle, half of the posters here will be talking about how old and useless he is... just like they did this past summer, when "trade Manu" threads were as common as "George Hill sucks" threads.
The problem with any of those swingmen mentioned including SJax, J.R. S"me"ith or any others is that they have proven that as of today, they cannot be selfless. It's hard for them to buy into the "system". Manu has attained "jedi-like" status in the system. Manu knows the ways of The Force.
Even if he does get injured that still does not make it a good trade. I would rather have Manu out and have his salary off the books than trade him for an inferior player.
Manu plays 25-30 min/game. Jax plays 40+ min every game.....of course you're going to see a huge difference in production.
Once April rolls around Manu will be healthy, his production will be up, and people will start to appreciate him a little more.
it would be nice to have SJAX, but i dont see him returning. im not sure who we would give up for him, but getting him would help the spurs out, for sure.
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